Post-game GB Beats JAX 30-27

GBP4EVER said:
Saw a X post of a Jets fan complaining about rodgers letting the clock run down to near zero and having then to waste TO's because they can't get the play off in time. Glad we don't have that issue anymore. Also shows ML trying to take the blame saying his play calls were long to defend Rodgers waiting to 1 every time to snap the ball was BS and it was all Rodgers every time waiting to try to read the defense to the very last second.
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Actually, we did waste a TO in the first half due to the clock running down. hide)
 
Mark87 said:
can is terminology for check down in the Shanahan system... if watched closely the Texans did it last week. However, it has dummies built in for example "can" 1 time might be a no-call while " can can can" x3 is the real check down. EVERY play has an associated check in their system. They switch those weekly so you never know..what was/is a check.

It's 100% the QB job in the system to read the coverage and check out via his read. Has nothing to do with ML
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EVERYONE> Needs to read this post slowly....again. If they change coverage the QB has to read it and then check out or stay in. It's built into the offense. Factor #2 is how fast the play gets in.

So after reading all that.... stop bitching about the play clock. I prefer he gets the correct read in with 4 seconds left at the snap then rush it and we get crap.
 
rpiotr01 said:
I'm not sure what Oladapo's status was but in retrospect it may have been better for them to keep everyone else the same and just replace one player rather than do musical chairs midstream where everyone played worse at these positions where they hadn't been playing.
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Mark87 said:
EVERYONE> Needs to read this post slowly....again. If they change coverage the QB has to read it and then check out or stay in. It's built into the offense. Factor #2 is how fast the play gets in.

So after reading all that.... stop bitching about the play clock. I prefer he gets the correct read in with 4 seconds left at the snap then rush it and we get crap.
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The longer the QB waits, more more he can find out about the defense as well. In the case of the Packers, a lot of the final decision is made "after" a man is in motion. It takes time to relay those changes, and it's also on the center to change the blocking assignments if necessary, for the O Line.

Most fans don't see the nuances of what goes into making the reads. It also includes giving details because of personnel on the field. You need to make sure everyone is on the same page before the ball is snapped.
 
TW said:
The longer the QB waits, more more he can find out about the defense as well. In the case of the Packers, a lot of the final decision is made "after" a man is in motion. It takes time to relay those changes, and it's also on the center to change the blocking assignments if necessary, for the O Line.

Most fans don't see the nuances of what goes into making the reads. It also includes giving details because of personnel on the field. You need to make sure everyone is on the same page before the ball is snapped.
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I'm on board with all of this. My only quibble is that, just like Shanahan often does, sometimes I want to see GB run the ball just to run the ball. Even if the look is unfavorable, just run the ball. One thing that has been working with Willis at QB is they just hand it off and say, Our guys are gonna beat your guys - and they've had some success. That's something I love about the way Detroit plays as well. If you have the horses to pull it off it's a huge asset on offense to be able to get yards on the ground even when the other team knows it's coming.
 
rpiotr01 said:
I'm on board with all of this. My only quibble is that, just like Shanahan often does, sometimes I want to see GB run the ball just to run the ball. Even if the look is unfavorable, just run the ball. One thing that has been working with Willis at QB is they just hand it off and say, Our guys are gonna beat your guys - and they've had some success. That's something I love about the way Detroit plays as well. If you have the horses to pull it off it's a huge asset on offense to be able to get yards on the ground even when the other team knows it's coming.
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There will be plays where they do exactly what you mentioned. A pass play is called, but the QB sees the coverage, and realizes that a run play is a better option. Favre was the biggest in checking runs into pass plays. Rodgers was into that as well, but was often changing the pass play itself to another pass play.

I think we're seeing where there's more of a balance from both Love and Willis, taking it both ways, based on the defenses more than on preferences they personally have.

Of course, having Josh back there carrying the ball makes a huge difference. He's a work horse who can handle 25 carries a game. He also has the ability to get positive yardage more often than a lot of runners.

I won't go into it but Josh has the ability to get a superior angle against defenders when going through the line, to give him forward momentum, so he isn't driven backwards. The only time you see him driven backwards is when he's carrying the ball East or West because the play is going outside. When doing that, the defender has the advantage on the angle of attack.

I realize a lot of people might scratch their head over this, but this is the one thing that AJ Dillon lacks. He doesn't get those angles on the defenders, but if he did, he'd be just as explosive as Josh going through the line. Maybe, during this season being part of the team but watching Josh, he can bring that to the table if he's back next year.

I think our QB room realizes that the success of their passing game really depends a lot on the success of our run game. If you force the defense to play honest against the run, they can't load up in the defensive backfield against the pass.

Against the Jags, we saw ..... I think it was 3.............. runs on second and 10, where they gave the ball to Jacobs, and he got 4 to 6 yards. It may not sound like much but it sent a message that they'd run on those longer distance downs, and weren't afraid to hand off to Jacobs with 3rd and 5. Now you have those shorter open routes open, because they can't play back against the pass.

Sorry! Kind of lengthy there.
 
TW said:
Of course, having Josh back there carrying the ball makes a huge difference. He's a work horse who can handle 25 carries a game. He also has the ability to get positive yardage more often than a lot of runners.
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i think yesterday was the first time where wilson was completely ineffective. 1.3 yards per carry and -2 yards on two pass receptions. brooks seemed to have something yesterday. i'd like to see more.
 
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