2024 Badger Football Thread

Mark87 said:
So THIS is a huge red flag to me, Fick and UW have to understand that talent at the power 5 level has to be 2 deep and that speed kills at this level. The central high rah rah BS isn't going to win at this level. ( See Army/Notre Dame)
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Look at every game he keeps wearing that stupid TEAM vest. In his mind you can overcome lack of talent if you play as one.
 
GBP4EVER said:
Look at every game he keeps wearing that stupid TEAM vest. In his mind you can overcome lack of talent if you play as one.
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The players clearly can’t execute the system he wants to run. They don’t stack up. It makes a nice sound bite to not throw players under the bus and say they stink, but it’s also a cop out. Is he saying they’re not only not talented enough but not trying hard enough? As if trying would get them over the hump?
 
The Badgers have coaching issues. You moved away from what the program was known for 30 years a power run program. They wanted to go Air Raid but they had zero personal for it. Wisconsin is a school that has never been a great location to play at. Also the NIL is not funded well. So you try to change the offense and defense and are still having to figh the same recuriting battles you always do. Right now the talent is so bad you need to go into the portal and get anyone you can. If it means you do what Deion did a couple years ago and tell everyone on the roster they are free to go to the portal you do so. Fickell needs to look at his staff hard if some more people need to be fired do it but make sure this time you hire right because you won't likely be given another pass to redo your staff again. Then make sure you can go to portal and get a team to get you to a bowl game. You crap the bed again the kids that were good recurits will say yeah we are leaving this mess see you and are left to start all over again this time being a bottom feeder school meaning even less good talent will want to be there.
 
I am a guy that believes effort, desire, hard work, and playing together as a team can overcome talent.

WI problem is there doesn't appear to be much effort and desire, the Saturday product implies there isn't much hard work being done, and WI doesn't have its usual MOJO where it at least appeared they were playing together for each other as a team. It's disheartening.

I bought in hard to everything being said about and everything coming out of WI's program. I was really anticipating this season and this game. I was hoping this game would bring WI back and we'd be playing for a playoff birth. Unfortunately, I think we could have a 64 team tournament, and I don't think WI would get in.

Righting the ship? We need a QB.

Regarding the offensive line, I think it needs to be like the Nebraska Fullback of old. A homegrown kid that would gi tgrough hell and back for Nebraska. I'm not saying they all must be from WI, but we need some rallying cry and some leader willing to smash things not wearing red.

Talent evaluation: Talent is out there. We're nit getting 4-5s. But we should be able to get 3-4s. We need to get the right guys - guys with heart and desire.

it's a different world, but it's not. There are plenty who could make Bucky 2d tier B1G and dangerous to anybody. We don't have them, and we need to get them.

And, I don't care if we play all freshmen next year. Our experience guys don't have it.
 
IMO, the worst Badger football season since 1991.

2024 most impressive win was against Rutgers, who at 6-5 overall and 3-5 Big 10 (currently) will at least be going to a bowl game. Can't say the same about Northwestern and Purdue. The two non-conference wins against Western Michigan and South Dakota are nothing special, although at least Western Michigan will also be going to a bowl game.

Ended the season with a 5 game losing streak, and simply were not competitive against long-time rivals Iowa and Minnesota.

Last sub-.500 season was in 2001 (5-7, 3-5), and in that season they beat Iowa, Penn State and a ranked Ohio State team (Ohio State ranked 21st at the time, finished 7-5).

Prior to that, the last sub-.500 season was 1995, when they finished 4-5-2 (3-4-1 in Big 10). That season they beat a Penn State team that was ranked 6th at the time (was #13 in the final poll) and also had a win against a 6-5-1 Michigan State team.

Before that was 1992 (5-6, 3-5). The Badgers beat an Ohio State team ranked 12th at the time (finished at #18 in the final poll), although the other 2 Big 10 wins were nothing to write home about (a bad Purdue team and a terrible Minnesota team).

So that takes us back to 1991, Badgers were 5-6 overall, but only 2-6 in conference. The conference wins were against Northwestern (3-8) and Minnesota (2-9). The non-conference wins were against Eastern Michigan, Western Illinois and the one "big conference opponent" win was against a 3-7-1 Iowa State team. This was so long ago, Iowa State was a Big 8 team (before they expanded to become the Big 12). 1991 was Alvarez's second year at the Badger head coach.

So I'd put this as the worst Badger football season in 33 years, and IMO it's not really even debatable. Fickell, and especially McIntosh, should be looking for the nearest rock to crawl under.
 
Truthfully the collapse of Badgers football was inevitable. Honestly, it’s amazing they stayed so good so long on the way they built their football team.


The question becomes: what is rock bottom? How long to recover? Will they just become a middling team like Minnesota/Nebraska/etc.
 
The Unholy Turnip said:
So I'd put this as the worst Badger football season in 33 years, and IMO it's not really even debatable. Fickell, and especially McIntosh, should be looking for the nearest rock to crawl under.
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Packfan35 said:
The question becomes: what is rock bottom?
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i guarantee that next year will be worse, given the crazy difficult schedule they have ahead of them. and given the change at oc, it is like they are starting all over and fickell's first two years were wasted.
 
Fickell better hope that if UW is something likd a 4 win team next year that he does not get shown the door because there could be boosters that will pay to buy him out and move on.
 
GBP4EVER said:
Fickell better hope that if UW is something likd a 4 win team next year that he does not get shown the door because there could be boosters that will pay to buy him out and move on.
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i think a 4-win season is almost inevitable. but it would really make me angry if there are boosters who would pay to buy him out but won't pony up money for nil.
 
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