Packers 2022 Thread

Lazard is a wild card. Unless your convicted Doubs and Watson are ready you’re not setting up 10 for success. And on top of that this upcoming WR class is not deep at all.
Does Lazard really move that needle? I've always been a fan of him, I've always said there is a place for a guy like that on my team but he's a role player, not a difference maker. Has more value to a Rodgers-led offense than a Love offense.
 
Thing is Lazard has not shown he's a #1 or even a #2. His agent will ask for that money if he's expected to fill that role in GB. GB can not and should not pay that.
And the alternative is Watson , Doubs and TBD. Not optimal. Who knows what he will ask for, numbers matter. And structure matters. I don’t see him breaking the bank on the open market
 
Does Lazard really move that needle? I've always been a fan of him, I've always said there is a place for a guy like that on my team but he's a role player, not a difference maker. Has more value to a Rodgers-led offense than a Love offense.
In the big picture probably not but the WR room is pedestrian now and with a weak WR class coming up not sure you can’t find a number that works. At the very least it’s some stability for 10
 
Honestly, what I am seeing is a totally different offense from the last three years.

They do not seem to be running play action as often, motioning WR's before the snap, and scheming WR's open. It seems to have gone back to WR's need to get open 1 on 1 and beat their man. I understand WR's need to be able to run good routes, understand leverage, and adjust to the speed of the NFL so they can get open but it just seems like this offense is a shell of itself.

Maybe it is the o-line, maybe it's the rookie WR's, maybe it's AR regressing, or maybe it's ML deciding to do things differently. Heck, it is probably all of those things combined.

Does anyone have any thoughts on this or I am just overthinking it?
 
Honestly, what I am seeing is a totally different offense from the last three years.

They do not seem to be running play action as often, motioning WR's before the snap, and scheming WR's open. It seems to have gone back to WR's need to get open 1 on 1 and beat their man. I understand WR's need to be able to run good routes, understand leverage, and adjust to the speed of the NFL so they can get open but it just seems like this offense is a shell of itself.

Maybe it is the o-line, maybe it's the rookie WR's, maybe it's AR regressing, or maybe it's ML deciding to do things differently. Heck, it is probably all of those things combined.

Does anyone have any thoughts on this or I am just overthinking it?
Just me ……nobody can beat man press coverage. In the past #17 was capable of that. Also to begin the season you had 3 rookies on the roster, #8 who is what he is and Lazard. It’s a big learning curve especially based on the systems they came from.
 
Honestly, what I am seeing is a totally different offense from the last three years.

They do not seem to be running play action as often, motioning WR's before the snap, and scheming WR's open. It seems to have gone back to WR's need to get open 1 on 1 and beat their man. I understand WR's need to be able to run good routes, understand leverage, and adjust to the speed of the NFL so they can get open but it just seems like this offense is a shell of itself.

Maybe it is the o-line, maybe it's the rookie WR's, maybe it's AR regressing, or maybe it's ML deciding to do things differently. Heck, it is probably all of those things combined.

Does anyone have any thoughts on this or I am just overthinking it?
Rodgers doesn't want to do the play-action thing. They started ditching it along with the motion stuff last year and it's almost gone now. It's a real shame because that's the sort of thing that would actually allow you to scheme guys open.

Besides just Rodgers not wanting to do it there could be other things. The thumb right now may prevent them from putting him under center too much - easier for him to catch the ball out of shotgun. Also, the play of the interior OL may be making him wary of putting his back to the defense, probably feels like he's gonna get clobbered right away.
 
Rodgers doesn't want to do the play-action thing. They started ditching it along with the motion stuff last year and it's almost gone now. It's a real shame because that's the sort of thing that would actually allow you to scheme guys open.

Besides just Rodgers not wanting to do it there could be other things. The thumb right now may prevent them from putting him under center too much - easier for him to catch the ball out of shotgun. Also, the play of the interior OL may be making him wary of putting his back to the defense, probably feels like he's gonna get clobbered right away.

Great points, RP.

I have heard that the thumb has been an issue with being under center and the interior line makes sense.

As far as AR not wanting to do play action, it makes no sense since the offense was solid the last 3 years when they were doing it. if AR is that much of a stubborn SOB then he definitely needs to retire and drink his bourbon.
 
Great points, RP.

I have heard that the thumb has been an issue with being under center and the interior line makes sense.

As far as AR not wanting to do play action, it makes no sense since the offense was solid the last 3 years when they were doing it. if AR is that much of a stubborn SOB then he definitely needs to retire and drink his bourbon.
Play action doesn't jive with "Feed 'Tae", which was AR's desired form of offense. The whole ML/AR experience has been ML pleading with his QB to run a system and trying to convince him that certain things work, followed by AR IMO latching onto times when it doesn't work as proof that it will never work and fighting the system. I don't have proof of that, that's my opinion based on tidbits and hearsay but I think it makes sense when you look at the product on the field. It looks more and more disjointed.

And to be fair, I can't remember the last time GB ran a successful, clean bootleg. Defenses seem to be able to sniff them out and throw off the timing, but that may be because there's so little commitment to the run game that they can predict when they're going to happen. Chicken or the egg sort of situation.
 
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