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After losing Adams and MVS, nearly half of the receiving yards from last year, there is a big question of who is going to catch the ball this year. So here's a look at the Packers receiving corps (or corpse since they are mostly a collection of stiffs).

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1) Lazard - has shown the ability of a 2-3 receiver so far, but he has the best combination of talent and experience in the offense the Packers have - 750 yards
2) Cobb - aging, slower and not great at getting open any more. There because Rodgers want's him - 325 yards
3) Watkins - Looked great in 2015. Since then mostly injured and ineffective. Maybe he's lightning in a bottle, but more likely piss in a specimen bottle - 400 yards
4) Rodgers - Worthless last year. Maybe the puff pieces are right, but not likely. Probably makes the roster - 100 yards (cut mid-season if nobody gets injured)
5) Watson - Most physically talented receiver in years. Only lesser college, and Rodgers demands perfection, so not too much this year - 450 yards (only if he can get a few deep ones)
6) Doubs - Rookie, but not nearly as gifted as Watson - 325 yards
7) Toure - Rookie, there for special teams - 50 yards
8) Winfree - PS, but comes up when someone gets injured - 100 yards
WR total = 2500

Tight Ends
1) Tonyan - Coming off injury that usually takes a year to heal and more to return to form - 175 yards
2) Lewis - Old cars just don't run like new ones - 125 yards
3) Deguara - Was he not fully recovered last year, or just a guy? Guessing JAG - 225 yards
4) Dafney - Can he play? Can he stay on the field? - 100 yards
5) Davis - Despite puff pieces, probably ST - 50 yards
TE total - 500

Running Backs
1) Jones - Loads of talent. Overuse (and therefore injury) biggest concern. 350 yards
2) Dillon - See Jones, but not quite as fast - 300 yards.
RB total 650

other -250
That puts the Packers at 3900 - 600 less than last year.

The receiving talent is just not there for the Packers. In order to make up for the missing yards, Rodgers is going to have to give up his demands for MM-esq pre-snap reads and fully embrace the MLF offense of motion and scheming receivers open.
 

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Rodgers has already said that without Adams the offense will have to change. By his own admission he can be headstrong. But he's not stupid. He will change and probably relishes the opportunity to prove doubters wrong.

I expect the passing yards to be about the same as last year. Just more evenly distributed. Watkins, if he can stay healthy, has more left than people think. He was off to a good start in a neanderthal Ravens offense before he got hurt.

The Packers will move the ball. The key is whether they can improve on their #19 ranking in red zone efficiency from 2021.
 

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I think statistically we'll see Rodgers will be fine but won't be as gaudy as the last two years -- his overall yards and completion rate will likely drop and the TDs slightly. I think we'll see more close games like in MLF's first year (2019), less blowouts. I don't think the OP's 3900 yard number is that far off - Rodgers threw for 4002 in 2019.

Rookie WRs come into the league better prepared than before, but Justin Jefferson and JaMarr Chase are the exception and not the rule. They were very polished coming out and were part of a historic CFB offense. Watson and Doubs are nowhere close to that. MVS topped 60 yards four times in his rookie season and had 2 TDs, maybe Watson beats that but he also has to beat Lazard, Watkins, Cobb for snaps and targets. Not saying Watson won't be good, I just think a sanity check and realistic expectations are in order.
 

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I’m guessing this will be an offense without a “designated” WR1 this year.
I think we will see a WR-by committee approach to offense that will try to use WR’s, with certain skill/physical advantages, against perceived weaknesses of opposing defenses.
I also can envision RB’s much more involved as receivers in the passing game.

The burning question for me is wondering if Rodgers will embrace the opportunity to spread the ball around and take advantage of what the defense will give.
YAC will be of immense importance this year for any receiver (WR-TE-RB) who touches the ball.

For the offense to be successful it will have to be much-much more about offensive efficiency and much-much less about “Hero Ball” from #12.
 

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Remember Watkins was a #4 overall selection. He's just gotta stay healthy. I look at him as the veteran who the young guys will look to. They'll put him on a snap count like they did with Aaron Jones, try to keep him healthy.

I still look at Lazard as a TE. He may have the thin waist and narrower shoulders of a WR, but he blocks like an inline TE. That's what matters, imo. He can run routes and do all that, but he's probly not gonna be your #1 at wide out. We'll see. He will get a shot.

Doubs and Toure have route running skills. They have to learn the playbook and they have to figure out how Aaron wants them to do things, but they know how to make cuts, they know how to get open, how to get in and out of breaks, that kind of stuff. They should be able to contribute, and by the time the playoffs arrive, hopefully will have enough experience to where they might be rookies, but have 17 games under their belts, so have enough experience to where they can excel.

Watson's skill is running fast. He will get down the field to clear out safeties so Cobb and Lazard can get open underneath. We all know Aaron likes to hurl it deep. This dude should be able to make his adjustment and get under it, make some plays on these deep throws. He's pretty raw when it comes to route running, so he's somewhat limited as a chess piece underneath, but he is a wholesome, hardworking kid who should develop those skills in year 2 and 3.

Juwann Winfree is looked at as a scrub, but he lit it up in camp last year, then got hurt at the end. He's a veteran guy who knows how to work the field. Between him and Toure for that last slot, but someone's probably gonna get nicked up, so there should be room.
 

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For the offense to be successful it will have to be much-much more about offensive efficiency and much-much less about “Hero Ball” from #12.
i think for the offense to be successful they will need to have at least one wr that can keep defenses honest with downfield speed and a good catch %. otherwise, the opponents will simply stack the box making the run game less effective and taking away the quick short passes as well. as of now, watson is our best bet in that role.
 

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Asking three rookies to make significant contributions in the passing game just seems pie in the sky.

It defies probability that all three are gonna' stud it up their rookie seasons.

Especially with AR demanding perfection.

Really need Rodgers to improve and put Cobb on the bench.

It'd help if Winfree could make a big jump too.
 

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Ive been down on Lazard having a big year because I just don't think he's talented enough. But if 31 year old James Jones can get 890 yards as the only outside receiver, Lazard could get 900 too.

If the OL holds up, Rodgers will be able to put it right on the spot and our guys will produce. If Rodgers is harassed early, he wont be able to throw perfect balls, and the offense will struggle.

The OL is the key to any of this working. tc(
 

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i think for the offense to be successful they will need to have at least one wr that can keep defenses honest with downfield speed and a good catch %. otherwise, the opponents will simply stack the box making the run game less effective and taking away the quick short passes as well. as of now, watson is our best bet in that role.
Doubs can get deep too.
 

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Remember Watkins was a #4 overall selection. He's just gotta stay healthy. I look at him as the veteran who the young guys will look to. They'll put him on a snap count like they did with Aaron Jones, try to keep him healthy.

I still look at Lazard as a TE. He may have the thin waist and narrower shoulders of a WR, but he blocks like an inline TE. That's what matters, imo. He can run routes and do all that, but he's probly not gonna be your #1 at wide out. We'll see. He will get a shot.

Doubs and Toure have route running skills. They have to learn the playbook and they have to figure out how Aaron wants them to do things, but they know how to make cuts, they know how to get open, how to get in and out of breaks, that kind of stuff. They should be able to contribute, and by the time the playoffs arrive, hopefully will have enough experience to where they might be rookies, but have 17 games under their belts, so have enough experience to where they can excel.

Watson's skill is running fast. He will get down the field to clear out safeties so Cobb and Lazard can get open underneath. We all know Aaron likes to hurl it deep. This dude should be able to make his adjustment and get under it, make some plays on these deep throws. He's pretty raw when it comes to route running, so he's somewhat limited as a chess piece underneath, but he is a wholesome, hardworking kid who should develop those skills in year 2 and 3.

Juwann Winfree is looked at as a scrub, but he lit it up in camp last year, then got hurt at the end. He's a veteran guy who knows how to work the field. Between him and Toure for that last slot, but someone's probably gonna get nicked up, so there should be room.
I don't think Winfree or Toure make the team I don't think GB is going to keep 7 WR's Even if one does most likely they will be inactive every week unless a injury happens. Toure might be able to make something I think can devlop but might need season on PS. Winfree see nothing special about him he's a JAG who is replaced by another flash in the pan every year.
 
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