Bingo, And as I have said Coach Matt has to fix the culture in the building and that's not an overnight fix. With time and leadership the ship will be restored in a positive direction.
What really happened in GB
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Zero leaders in lockerroom since DD and Woodson left 12 and 52 were to worried about their off field careers to be locker room leaders
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Matthews off field stuff was so minimal. They never showed leadership even before stardom
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I for one am not a big bleacherreport guy but I did like this article and if its true it sure does shed some light on what has been going on.
Two quotes in particular stuck out to me:
"it angered defensive players "every day" how little interest McCarthy showed in them"
"As one player put it, Thompson assumed the Packers system was automatic and he could just plug cheap rookies in"
To me these two quotes are at the root of what really went wrong these last few years. MM never seemed to pay much attention to anything going on with the defense and TT falling asleep at the wheel.
I am not sure what to think of AR at this point but I do think he wants to be coached (and has said so) and on the same page as them. Time will tell how that works out.
Two quotes in particular stuck out to me:
"it angered defensive players "every day" how little interest McCarthy showed in them"
"As one player put it, Thompson assumed the Packers system was automatic and he could just plug cheap rookies in"
To me these two quotes are at the root of what really went wrong these last few years. MM never seemed to pay much attention to anything going on with the defense and TT falling asleep at the wheel.
I am not sure what to think of AR at this point but I do think he wants to be coached (and has said so) and on the same page as them. Time will tell how that works out.
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Interesting piece from Dunne. Regardless of how you care to assign blame or who you choose to believe it's pretty clear the organization was dysfunctional. Just another indication of Mark Murphy being oblivious to what was happening and apparently asleep at the switch. Interaction between the new coach and AR should be very revealing.
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After reading that article, they all ****ing suck. It's pretty obvious egos are part of the business, particularly with a superstar QB but there isn't a thing in that article that hasn't been openly hashed here. That's pretty bad considering fans usually drum up runaway theories. Every bit of it was true. ****. 
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Yeah, those grabbed me too. Also the confirmation of the country club environment. What a wasted era.
To me, Mayo LaFrog and I Am Gute get my full support. If they have to hammer Rodgers, do it. I really don't think it'll come to that. Rodgers may be overly sensitive but if he's got a coach and staff that is excited about building an innovative offense I can't see him not being fully onboard. I don't give a s*** about his personal life or how he handles it. If he's engaged when he's on the field and the team is excited that's all I want to see.
Reading about Thompson is painful. Especially if the guy is slurring his speech it's has to be pretty clear he's in a pretty serious state. I can see why the exodus occurred. Here's to I am Gute building a new FO.
Oh, and Angry Bald Man.
I bet the defense doesn't feel disrespected with him around.
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It shows that the QB doesn't have to be the leader - but the issue has been for these last few years is where has that leadership been? Despite all of his talent, I'm not sure if AR has the qualities to step up and be a "true" leader - but it HAS to come from an experienced veteran.
A more hard-hitting article than normal, but the thing is, there isn't really a ton there that is huge news or a complete surprise. The degree of the problem is maybe a little eye-opening but the root issues have been talked about before.
- AR and MM not seeing eye to eye is not a surprise, and I'm not really surprised that tensions go back to day one - though things had clearly become rockier over the past several years.
- MM not being a particularly innovative coach - also not a surprise because the evidence was there for everyone to see the last few years. Mostly he just paid lip service to making any meaningful off-season changes. The massage thing was pretty wild though. How'd he think that wasn't gonna get out.
- AR is a sensitive prima-donna - yup, although this article makes him a little more over the top in that regard.
- AR's "trust" issues with young players - also pretty well known, though this article shows some of the pettiness that had crept into his thinking and how his issues forced young players into an uncomfortable spot between AR and MM.
- TT misused free agency and was no longer capable of running the football operation the last few years - no surprise there.
- Murphy, was too absorbed with the business end of things - again, no surprise there.
- No locker room leadership - yup, seems about right.
The difference with this article is that it brought all of them together in one place and showed how all the various people contributed to the problem. Plenty of blame to go around, that much is clear.
It'll be interesting to see how they fix this. I know a lot of people were distressed by Murphy's new power structure, but I'll withhold judgement to see how things work out. I still maintain that part of the problem with the "old" structure was that there was nobody really holding TT accountable, especially once his health failed. Murphy was off being Bob Harlan and looking after the business side of things not "meddling".
The article seems to portray Murphy as being in control enough of the situation to leave AR outside of the influence sphere when selecting a head coach. Maybe that's a good thing. Maybe a new, younger GM like BG wouldn't have had the guts to leave AR out of the loop and then basically tell him to get on board after the fact.
Hopefully, this year's free agency shows that BG can handle the football operations and Murphy can count on him to deal with things more directly than TT ever did. Maybe the addition of some solid veterans can be part of the culture change. He has already made moves to eliminate players he thought were a problem in the locker room - Randall, Monty and HHCD. Right or wrong, they were at least decisive moves.
Lastly, I will keep mocking a DT for the Packers in the draft because I think the next veteran to go has to be Daniels. Like others have said - lotta talk, not a lotta action. Given what is being reported I'm not all that anxious to hang on to many veterans on this team.
- AR and MM not seeing eye to eye is not a surprise, and I'm not really surprised that tensions go back to day one - though things had clearly become rockier over the past several years.
- MM not being a particularly innovative coach - also not a surprise because the evidence was there for everyone to see the last few years. Mostly he just paid lip service to making any meaningful off-season changes. The massage thing was pretty wild though. How'd he think that wasn't gonna get out.
- AR is a sensitive prima-donna - yup, although this article makes him a little more over the top in that regard.
- AR's "trust" issues with young players - also pretty well known, though this article shows some of the pettiness that had crept into his thinking and how his issues forced young players into an uncomfortable spot between AR and MM.
- TT misused free agency and was no longer capable of running the football operation the last few years - no surprise there.
- Murphy, was too absorbed with the business end of things - again, no surprise there.
- No locker room leadership - yup, seems about right.
The difference with this article is that it brought all of them together in one place and showed how all the various people contributed to the problem. Plenty of blame to go around, that much is clear.
It'll be interesting to see how they fix this. I know a lot of people were distressed by Murphy's new power structure, but I'll withhold judgement to see how things work out. I still maintain that part of the problem with the "old" structure was that there was nobody really holding TT accountable, especially once his health failed. Murphy was off being Bob Harlan and looking after the business side of things not "meddling".
The article seems to portray Murphy as being in control enough of the situation to leave AR outside of the influence sphere when selecting a head coach. Maybe that's a good thing. Maybe a new, younger GM like BG wouldn't have had the guts to leave AR out of the loop and then basically tell him to get on board after the fact.
Hopefully, this year's free agency shows that BG can handle the football operations and Murphy can count on him to deal with things more directly than TT ever did. Maybe the addition of some solid veterans can be part of the culture change. He has already made moves to eliminate players he thought were a problem in the locker room - Randall, Monty and HHCD. Right or wrong, they were at least decisive moves.
Lastly, I will keep mocking a DT for the Packers in the draft because I think the next veteran to go has to be Daniels. Like others have said - lotta talk, not a lotta action. Given what is being reported I'm not all that anxious to hang on to many veterans on this team.