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Ugly night at Lambeau. Bears wanted it more.

Twice in the span of 12 days the Green Bay Packers couldn't defeat a losing team from the NFC North Division at Lambeau Field.
That was the sorry state of the Packers' affairs late Thursday night after they failed to score a point in the second half and went down hard to the Chicago Bears, 17-13, in the 192nd rendition of the NFL's oldest rivalry.
First, it was the cellar-dwelling Detroit Lions who ended the Packers' 13-game winning streak at home on Nov. 15. They hadn't won in Wisconsin since 1991.
The Thanksgiving night crowd then got to sit in rain and cold as the Bears handed the Packers a devastating setback in Green Bay's bid to win the division for the fifth straight season.
Green Bay slipped to 7-4, one-half game behind a Minnesota Vikings team that the Packers polished off with a promising performance four days earlier in Minneapolis.
Chicago is next at 5-6 followed by onrushing Detroit (4-7), which will meet the Packers next Thursday at Ford Field. The division records for the four teams are 3-1 for the Vikings, 2-2 for the Packers and Lions, and 1-3 for the Bears.
"You need to win your home games," coach Mike McCarthy said. "It's a game we expected to win, but we didn't play well enough to get it done. Disappointing loss."
McCarthy owned a 14-6 record against the Bears and a 44-14-1 record in his decade of domination against the division. The Packers had won 10 of their last 11 against the Bears, and with another victory, as a nine-point favorite, they would have tied the series (93-93-6) for the first time in 82 years.
The Bears, however, proved to be the better and stronger team as the game dragged on, especially at quarterback.
Jay Cutler, who had a nightmarish career record of 1-11 against the Packers and defensive coordinator Dom Capers, outplayed Aaron Rodgers in his most resolute and efficient performance ever against Green Bay.
For the fifth game in a row, Rodgers' passer rating (62.7) was worse than the opposing quarterback. It's an astonishing statistic for the NFL's all-time leader in passer rating.
Cutler finished with a rating of 90.7 in winning for the first time in five starts at Lambeau Field. His rating in 12 previous starts had been 63.2.
The Bears clearly were the better team on offense. They mixed bubble screens, flat passes to the tight ends, sideline throws to Alshon Jeffery and a steady ground game.
Even without tight end Martellus Bennett (ribs), Cutler after a slow start threw with a calm decisiveness and tremendous velocity. His poise, after so many pratfalls against Green Bay, was both telling and remarkable.
On the other hand, the Packers had little other than screen passes in a flat passing game that is nearing rock bottom.
McCarthy attributed the defeat largely to an excessive number of dropped passes. Davante Adams struggled catching the ball throughout the rainy night, and James Jones had a great chance to make the grab for an 8-yard touchdown with 29 seconds left that would have won the game.

"We do more damn ball drills here than anyone in the history of football," said McCarthy. "It didn't show up tonight.
"There's nothing broke here. If we make plays on the ball tonight the outcome is different."
It was the Packers' first home game on Thanksgiving since 1923.
The story of the first half for the Packers was their continued failures in short-yardage situations.
McCarthy elected to go for it on fourth and 2 at the Chicago 48, running Eddie Lacy off right tackle. When center JC Tretter, subbing for injured Corey Linsley (ankle), got blown up, the Bears stopped Lacy for no gain.
Early in the second quarter, Lacy tried to burrow behind left guard Josh Sitton on third and 1. This time, there was no movement at the point of attack, giving Pernell McPhee, the backside outside linebacker, time to flatten inside and make the tackle for no gain.
Sunday in Minnesota, the Packers converted just 2 of 5 third-and-1 situations, including just 1 of 4 rushing.
The Packers had to punt on their second possession when Adams dropped a third-and-11 pass in the clear at the Chicago 32.
"Didn't have a very good day today," McCarthy said, referring to Adams. "The consistency in certain areas needs to pick up."
The first score came on the Packers' third series. Starting from the Bears 49, the Packers gained two first downs before Lacy charged 25 yards on what has become the team's best play of late, a screen pass, for the touchdown.
Chicago's first five possessions resulted in one first down and 52 yards against an active, aggressive defense. Terrible field position was hurting the Bears.
Then Lacy turned the right side for a gain of 15 before he was hit from behind by strong safety Chris Prosinski, who was subbing for injured Antrel Rolle (knee).
The ball came free and was recovered by linebacker Lamarr Houston, who won a scramble with John Kuhn.

It took the Bears nine plays to go the 34 yards for a touchdown. The drive might have ended on third and 4 at the 28, but cornerback Damarious Randall blew a sack of Cutler, who then passed 10 yards to Marc Mariani.
Tight end Zach Miller came across the formation and was wide open in the left corner for a 3-yard scoring pass on third and goal.
Mason Crosby followed with a 22-yard field goal after Jeff Janis ran over two tacklers and roared for 64 on the kickoff return. The Packers would have had third and goal at the 1, but James Jones was penalized for an illegal pick, negating a 4-yard pass to Randall Cobb.

Deonte Thompson's 37-yard gain on the ensuing kickoff allowed the Bears to start from their 42. They needed seven plays to go the distance, with Jeremy Langford piling in from the 1 for a 14-10 lead.
Beginning to heat up, Cutler completed 3 of 4 passes in the drive for 39 yards. The key play was a 19-yard sideline pass to Marquess Wilson, who beat Randall.
Green Bay trimmed its halftime deficit to 14-13 on Crosby's 50-yard field goal as time expired.
The Packers drove from the 22 to the Bears 21 early in the third quarter, and Rodgers actually scrambled for a first down at the 10. However, the gain was brought back when Sitton was called for holding defensive end Ziggy Hood as Rodgers ran by him.
On third and 15, Tretter's shotgun snap rolled underneath Rodgers, who was swarmed under for a loss of 14 yards that knocked the Packers out of field-goal position.
Attacking primarily through the air despite the worsening conditions, the Bears marched 83 yards in 15 plays for a 21-yard field goal by Robbie Gould to increase their lead to 17-13. With the Bears perched at the 1 on second down, Matt Forte was thrown down at the 3 and then Cutler missed Jeffery in the right corner against tight coverage by Sam Shields.


Green Bay picked up two first downs but Rodgers was sacked on third down by Willie Young, who beat Bryan Bulaga off the edge. Bulaga left with an ankle injury.
Rodgers scrambled twice for 28 yards as the Packers reached midfield. But Adams got hung up by Prosinski as he attempted to run a slant against Tracy Porter. Rodgers' pass already was airborne and went right to Porter for an interception.
On second and 5 at the 50, center Hroniss Grasu was called for holding and the Bears, instead of having a chance to increase their lead, ended up having to punt.
Starting from their 20 with 2 minutes 45 seconds left and no timeouts, Rodgers marshaled the team to first and goal at the 8.
On first down, Rodgers held the ball and then was drilled by linebacker Shea McClellin as he fired incomplete.

On second down, Rodgers had all day before throwing incomplete to Richard Rodgers.
On third down, Jones evaded Porter in the right corner but wasn't able to secure a contested ball against close coverage.
On fourth down, Rodgers again had time before extending left and unloading for Adams. The pass appeared to be slightly behind him and fell incomplete.
"They played coverage," McCarthy said of the fourth-down play. "Aaron didn't have anywhere to throw the football."
 
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JJ: does not run crisp routes
AD: doesn't do much well, lots of drops lately
RC: just doesn't get open as often as we've seen before
RR: sloooooow
JA: injury prone
Janis+Perillo+Monty: somewhat unproven

Routes: very few packages designed to get guys open, of course, when routes are run poorly it doesn't matter what the scheme is.
 
I mean, they really didn't look much better last week.

This is a problem of season-altering consequences. No one would have predicted that this offense would take such a huge step back this season, even with Jordy hurt. They have. Rodgers is on an island out there with the lack of help from his receivers, and he's not doing much to change that with some of the ducks he's throwing.

It's bad, people. I know we all get that, but I don't see why anyone should expect anything different right now. They haven't shown **** in the last several weeks.
 
**** THIS TEAM! JUST **** IT.

On a night where 4 goes on the wall, Starr goes through agony to be here and to tie the all time record with the bears we play flat.

The Defense isn't to blame other than they couldn't get a pick off of jay **** cutler.

The offense where do I start? Yes lacey **** the bed on a fumble but the guy is running mad and we bench him basically in the second half?

I continue to ask why Richard Rodgers is even on the field when split out wide? If Cobb can't get open split out wide why not put Janis out wide and cobb in Rodgers place? Also as many have mentioned Adams is an overrated piece of ****, absolute Boyking 2.0.

I'm sorry but when theirs 40 seconds left inside the 10 and your biggest running threat in lacey is on the bench that pathetic. Along with R. Rogers only great gift is finding holes in red zone D and you put Janis in? Like wtf is the Clements thinking?

A highly speculative thing to say is this team lacks the leadership since Woodson left, no leader on this team and it showed. With the great night in GB history and you come out and play a game like that every single man on the 53 should be ashamed.
 
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Quick Slants Week 12 vs Bears, by James Korsmo

Happy Thanksgiving! I’m filling in for Jeremy once again, hopefully not tarnishing his legacy too much. Here are tonight’s Quick Slants:

  • Having Bart Starr back at Lambeau is one of the most important and amazing things the Packers could have done. This is most likely the last best chance to honor his legacy and contributions to the franchise. It is commendable to everybody involved that they recognized this and made it happen.
  • There have been columns written on people’s opinions of Brett Favre. This is not one of them. He was the face of the franchise when they were resurrected from the depths of irrelevance to win a Super Bowl. I have gotten over my anger towards him, but understand those who haven’t.
  • Please for the love of all the puppies and kitties and pretty little flowers let Aaron Rodgers be okay.
  • 4th and 2 stretch run plays…..STOP IT.
  • The dropped passes are out of control. It’s been difficult enough to get momentum, but dropping first downs when your passing game is struggling is like putting water on an already smoldering fire.
  • The 3 and outs continue to plague this offense. At some point, they have to start putting together drives.
  • Just when you think the Packers offense has run out of feet to put bullets in, they find more. They are like starfish.
  • Jim McMahon in a Packers jersey. At the Bears game. JIM MCMAHON IN A PACKERS JERSEY AT THE BEARS GAME.
  • No, YOU had tears in your eyes at work watching Bart Starr and Brett Favre embrace.
  • The Bears are better than they used to be.
  • Why, oh why, is Ladarius Gunter covering Alshon Jeffrey on 3rd and 16?
  • Other than the fumble, Eddie Lacy continued his resurgence.
  • ANDREW QUARLESS GET BACK NOW.
  • The offensive line is simultaneously offensive, and also offensive.
  • Davante Adams is lost. He’s a lost puppy. It’s awful.
  • I hated this whole entire game.
  • We are still in the playoffs, somehow. In fact, if Minnesota loses against Atlanta on Sunday, we’ll still lead the division.

I’m sorry to be so negative tonight, but this was an abomination. Hopefully something happens in the next 7 days to change the way this team plays. It’s like a Ferrari running on lawn mower fuel right now.

Thank you for reading. James Korsmo is a featured writer at Titletown Sound Off. You can follow him on Twitter @jksub20. For even more Packers content, follow us on Twitter and Like us on Facebook.

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After this debacle, I've put a fork in the season. I'll likely watch the games (though I may not if there is something better to do) but I just can't get invested in this team anymore this year. I can abide a team that is playing hard that just doesn't win but I'm kinda tired of watching them just go through the motions on offense. Same formations, same lame routes, nothing creative and the same lack of productivity week after week.

The 4 plays of the last drive was a microcosm. On one play Cobb is being covered by a LB, but instead of there being enough flexibility to the route, he just sort of runs into the LB and wallows around in one place allowing a slow guy to cover him. Any sort of a sharp break-off of the route and he'd have been wide open. As others have noted, on the last play you ran 4 wides and each of them essentially ran a curl route. Curls kinda work better against zone coverage and against man coverage have to be a timing play. The Packers aren't seeing much zone and AR doesn't seem to throw on timing all that much. The whole play just seems badly designed.

Maybe if they get healthy and add another weapon in the passing game in the off-season (a TE with some speed would be nice) they'll have a chance again next year, but as constituted this season, they are not going anywhere. They probably won't win the division, will have to go to either Carolina or Arizona and the playoffs (if they make it) will come to an early end. Heck, the chances are looking worse all that time that we won't even make the playoffs. The best chance likely seems as a wild-card since there are so many mediocre teams right now.
 
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