Post Game Thread : Arizona Defeats Green Bay 38-8

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Imagine you were told before the season that quarterback Aaron Rodgers and the starting offense would be removed from a December game late in the third quarter, that Scott Tolzien would be given a rare opportunity for on-field action.

It's very likely your mind would envision a massive victory for the Green Bay Packers, a thorough beating of an unworthy opponent as a championship-caliber team inched closer to the playoffs, where the truly important games take place.

But in this particular year, with the strangeness of a six-game winning streak, the bizarre nature of a mid-season collapse and a mild resurgence entering Sunday, the above scenario seemed altogether unlikely.

The Packers, a team picked by so many as Super Bowl favorites during the summer, were being dismantled by a much better, much stronger opponent: Arizona 38, Green Bay 8.



Player of the Game: Cardinals' defense. Facing an offensive line for the Packers that began without one starter and went on to lose three more for portions of the game, the Cardinals generated overwhelming pressure on Aaron Rodgers. With contributions from Dwight Freeney, Calais Campbell and Kareem Martin, among others, they smashed Rodgers repeatedly and forced multiple fumbles.
The final tally of nine sacks for a loss of 78 yards was an accurate reflection of the damage, along with the decision by coach Mike McCarthy to pull Rodgers from the game in the fourth quarter.
Turning point: Already trailing 17-0 after the defense allowed an 80-yard touchdown drive in the final minute of the first half, the Packers received the opening kickoff of the third quarter. Aaron Rodgers handed the ball to James Starks, who promptly fumbled yet again. The ball was scooped up safety Jerraud Powers, and two plays later the Cardinals scored when running back David Johnson scampered in from 14 yards out. In an instant, before 60 seconds had come off the clock, an uphill battle turned into an impossible climb. The Packers trailed 24-0 to a team with legitimate Super Bowl aspirations.

Big number: 5 — Total fumbles for the Packers, who saw James Starks fumble once — his fourth in the last four games — and Aaron Rodgers twice. Defensive tackle Cory Redding returned a fumble by Rodgers 36 yards for a touchdown.


What went right: Almost nothing. Scoreless for more than 2.5 quarters, Aaron Rodgers dumped the ball off to tailback Eddie Lacy for a 28-yard touchdown that ended the drought. A 2-point conversion followed, which cut the deficit to 31-8 and erased the potential embarrassment of a shutout. Lacy finished with 98 total yards in perhaps the only positive performance of the day. Aside from those two plays — the Lacy touchdown and the 2-point conversion — there was almost nothing the Packers could be happy with, other than a solid performance by Rick Lovato, the new long snapper. Lovato, signed off the street after Brett Goode suffered a torn ACL against the Oakland Raiders, did not appear to have any problems with either Tim Masthay or Mason Crosby on Sunday.

What went wrong:Almost everything. Winners of three straight games against middling opponents, the Packers endured total implosion Sunday in what was supposed to be a litmus test for the playoffs. A bruised offensive line finally shattered, and Aaron Rodgers was sacked nine times. Ball security issues were made worse by ball-hawking defenders, and the Cardinals returned two fumbles for touchdowns.
A group of receivers that has been maligned all season — James Jones, Davante Adams, Randall Cobb — did little to quell ongoing frustrations against aggressive coverage, and they combined for less than 150 yards. So bad was the performance that McCarthy removed Aaron Rodgers and the majority of his offensive starters with nearly half of the final quarter remaining. The Packers were dominated from start to finish, and plenty of questions were raised.
 
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How did we go from a team that honestly should have been in the super bowl last year and probably favored in it to a team that honestly shouldn't be in the playoffs? The only difference is jordy. I will never allow myself to believe Jordy Nelson is the difference between a super bowl favorite and this crap we are watching. What can it honestly be?

My only explanation is that Rodgers has honestly become an average qb this season with well below average wrs.
 
We're not good vs top tier teams. This year feels like such a monumental step back. Even in the past when we've struggled, I've still had hope that IF we get on track, can beat anyone. I have virtually no faith in us having another level in us anymore. Rodgers looks alarmingly average, we have zero play makers.
 
The whole offense regressed.

They needed Jordy taking the top off the defense to open up space for our slow receivers.

Rodgers took a step back.

The offensive line took a step back.

The play calling took about 10 steps back.

Lacy took about 50 steps back.

Our defense can be had by better QB with a decent line and a couple play makers.
 
Used to be we had a couple of things that worked really well, and a lot of things that worked fairly well. The things that worked well worked well enough that the things that sort of worked worked well enough that we could get by. The strengths covered for the weaknesses.

Now, the few things that worked really well don't work at all anymore, and because of that nothing else works at all either. The whole team has come down like a house of cards. This is going to take years to fix, and I don't think Rodgers ever wins another Super Bowl in Green Bay.
 
This is what happens when your front office wants to keep the roster young yet lives and dies by draft and develop except the develop doesn't happen. When you need those younger down roster guys to step up and fill in they completely implode.

Pretty much blame to go around from top to bottom.

This isn't a team taking some lumps who are playing united with purpose to overcome the adversity. This is a team with a bunch of guys checked out, the star QB and HC/OC seemingly on different pages, and a complete lack of HC/on field/lockeroom leadership.

That's about all you can say. The HC needs to stop believing his own ggg( and realize he's on the verge of completely losing the team. At which point why keep him around?
 
Glendale, Ariz. - Packers coach Mike McCarthy took the blame for his team's terrible performance in a 38-8 loss to the Arizona Cardinals Sunday at University of Phoenix Stadium.

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When saying someone has taken a step back it usually means they had one good year and then regressed. Rodgers has had several great years and and this year has been complete poop. But then so has our line and our receivers and our backs. It's the perfect storm of crap. We sure as hell better draft some OL
 
When saying someone has taken a step back it usually means they had one good year and then regressed. Rodgers has had several great years and and this year has been complete poop. But then so has our line and our receivers and our backs. It's the perfect storm of crap. We sure as hell better draft some OL

That's where it gets tough. OL, sure. Think we've fixed ILB, TE, even WR, maybe RB (one fumbler, one horribly inconsistent), a number of DL/OLB in contract years, et. al.? Lots of holes to plug.
 
Everytime Rodgers pulls the ball down, he is in trouble. The O-line isn't giving any more time for a second pump. And suddenly, the offense looks exactly the same as before MM took it back. No screens, no Starks running the ball, short 3 yard passed are the only thing working and ever those are contested.

Rodgers accuracy is off. Seems like its been this way since the bye week. Pass to Abbrederris was out in front, to Rodgers was behind and to Jones (int) was low.

Defense gets worn down early because the offense doesn't do much and your cooked.
 
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