Packers 2024-25 Season Thread


i know many of us have questioned his value, but in the second half of the season christian watson was 3rd in the nfl at 11.7 yards per target (not yards per catch - yards per target). that is a significant loss for the packers. but, at this point it is clear that he has knee issues (in both knees) that will impact his availability as well as his speed, which is his primary asset. it is time for gute to recognize that we need a fast, strong wr. the kind that you aren't likely to find outside the first two rounds.
 
The issue is we don't just have a WR need, we need another starting CB, a depth CB , a starting MLB, and really need a OT.
We have the cash and cap to sign a corner in FA, then probably need to draft one early and a couple late. Overall they can help themselves out in FA and reduce the needs in the draft.
 
i really wish that instead of taking morgan in the first round, gute had taken one of the next two cbs that came off the board. both have played well in starting roles this season. instead, he drafted a tackle that was going to have to play interior lineman in the nfl and also wouldn't play a single snap this season.
 
transcript of a portion of tyler dunne's "go long" podcast. some of it is hard to follow because transcripts are not very accurate.

All right,
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we talk about the Packers a lot with Bob McGinn on the Tyne Bob pod, but I do want your perspective because... All right, Green Bay... More physical, more violent. You heard from Sean Ryan a month or so ago. This is a team that can finally win the back alley brawl.
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But they've been winning the back alley brawl against not elite teams, to put it mildly. Maybe the best team they beat. Like Seattle, they kind of caught these teams at opportune times, like the Rams without Cup and Nakua. The Dolphins, when that ship was sinking. So they're 1-5 in the NFC North, 0-4 against the Lions and Vikings.
45:29
That style of play when you're just handing the ball off, it's great. Josh Jacobs is having this extraordinary year, but you're also paying Jordan Love $55 million a year to hand the ball off. You've got to let him throw. This isn't even a knock on Love.
45:43
This is a Matt LaFleur problem because when he does let him throw the ball and he unleashes him, they've at least been able to play catch-up against the Vikings twice in those games. You've got to let him throw. I don't know what that balance is because it is good that they can win a different
46:02
kind of football game that they'd always lose with Aaron Rodgers in the playoffs. But you still need your quarterback to be that dude. So what is that balance? And you're going to play a Philly team that is peaking at the right time.
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Yeah, I think the concern is love. I mean, we've watched him enough where – Easy, Jim. He's scary. I told you this before. Next to Anthony Richardson, he's not on that hold your breath level, but he does some hold your breath things that that is why LeFleur is probably scared sometimes.
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You give him too much, you might get bit. And that pick six is staring at you sometimes. I'm telling you, he has gotten away with some crazy, crazy throws. A lot of guys do, but he's so physically gifted. You know, there's nothing but upside and still excitement for love.
46:52
But no, I don't think he's I don't think he's ready to go to Philly and win this game. By him, I think he would need a dominant run game, the defense to just get hurts a turn, you know, get hurts to cough one up.
47:06
Well, let's do remember. I like this Green Bay team.
47:10
They went into Dallas. No, I think they can win this game. I do. I like this Green Bay team.
47:16
You think it's got to be a heavy dose of Josh Jacobs still,
47:18
and you've got to be careful with love. That's how I feel about it, yes. I think if they try to – I think the Eagles – and to your point, playing catch-up, you can't make a living that way. So to your point, come out and throw. Get the point. You throw to score early.
47:33
You run to win in the fourth.
47:37
Being the youngest team in the league, I think, still kind of helps you. There's that blissful ignorance thing that Matt Hasselbeck was getting into. Yet you also were there last year. So you get the stakes. You get how last year ended at Santa Clara. A bad throw across the field. A missed field goal before that.
47:56
You gave that game away. You were that close to the NFC Championship game. I don't know. I kind of want to think about this game a little bit more before making a prediction.
48:04
Because I...
48:07
I do like the style of play that they've been playing with most of this season. The defense is a lot better under Jeff Halfley. Xavier McKinney has eight interceptions. The pass rush can come at you from different sources. It's not just one guy. Edger and Cooper. You know what? It might come down to Edger and Cooper.
48:25
Here's a linebacker who can pull off the sort of stunts that only the Fred Warners of the world do. Bob mentioned that. That play, was it Jacksonville, the one that Christian Kirk got hurt on? I mean, he's trailing a receiver down the deep middle, makes a play on the ball. How many guys can do that?
48:42
Yet he also gives up stuff. Speaking of living with the ups and the downs of a player, they're living with it with Edger Cooper. He's playing a lot of snaps. So maybe it comes down to him against a Saquon Barkley in this offensive line. Can he hold his own in this game?
48:56
All right, do you want to make a prediction? I'm going to hold off for now until I talk to Bob.
49:02
I still think Philly wins.
 


Again, just a funny year. Would not have guessed Love would be top 5 in this category.
 
My off season wish list is we get some big tough nasty mentally and physically strong offensive linemen. I don't care whether they are draft picks, free agents, or attitude adjustments to guys we have. I'm tired of watching our offensive line propelled backwards like they are on roller skates.

And, if we're drafting them, please draft interior linemen to play guard and center.

And, and, if we're drafting one early, please don't draft one because they can play all the positions, draft one who's good where he's playing [if he can play more than one position, it's a bonus, but please don't make that the deciding factor].

I believe our priority should be protecting Love and opening better holes for our running backs.

After, it would be nice to get some big unfriendlies on the defensive line.

Wouldn't it be wonderful to control the line of scrimmage? I think that would solve a lot of problems.
 
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My off season wish list is we get some big tough nasty mentally and physically strong offensive linemen. I don't care whether they are draft picks, free agents, or attitude adjustments to guys we have. I'm tired of watching our offensive line propelled backwards like they are on roller skates.

And, if we're drafting them, please draft interior linemen to play guard and center.

And, and, if we're drafting one early, please don't draft one because they can play all the positions, draft one who's good where he's playing [if he can play more than one position, it's a bonus, but please don't make that the deciding factor].

I believe our priority should be protecting Love and open better holes for our running backs.

After, it would be nice to get some big unfriendlies on the defensive line.

Wouldn't it be wonderful to control the line of scrimmage? I think that would solve a lot of problems.
There were a lot of disturbing things about the chicago game, but I think the worst was that our starting OL played that whole game and got their butts kicked by a bad Bears DL.
 
transcript of a portion of tyler dunne's "go long" podcast. some of it is hard to follow because transcripts are not very accurate.
Lots of truth in that transcript.

But, I don't think we win the 'back alley brawl' against anybody.
 
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