Packers 2023-24 Season Thread

rpiotr01 said:
To put the rushing futility another way, I saw this elsewhere but Jordan Love has been responsible for 75+% of the Packers total offense. For a first time starting QB with a rookie/young WR and TE group, that is a failure bordering on disaster.
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rpiotr01 said:
To put the rushing futility another way, I saw this elsewhere but Jordan Love has been responsible for 75+% of the Packers total offense. For a first time starting QB with a rookie/young WR and TE group, that is a failure bordering on disaster.

Edit to add, Rodgers 2020 MVP season he was responsible for about 66% of their total offense, 2021 around 68 or 69. They’re asking Jordan Love to carry this team more than Rodgers did during his MVP years.
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This season just keeps getting better and better. Hopefully they can get that taken care of and that 75% + drops over the course of the rest of this year.
 
No matter how you look at it, the biggest problem the Packers have is their offensive line. They are not blocking well enough to get yardage on the ground.

Compare the percentage of offensive plays that are passes over the last 5 years, plus 2023 for the Packers. then think about how pathetic the run game has become. It's telling me that they need to rebuild that offensive line. I wouldn't make anyone's job untouchable. They need a long term fix, not a tire patch to get through a short span of time. That said, they really need to find a true animal for the defensive line. The kind of guy who, when asked about how he likes his steak cooked says to run the steer past him and he'll rip off a chunk of it to eat as it's passing.

NFL Football Stats - NFL Team Passing Play Percentage | TeamRankings.com

NFL Football passing play percentage, by team.
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TW said:
No matter how you look at it, the biggest problem the Packers have is their offensive line. They are not blocking well enough to get yardage on the ground.

Compare the percentage of offensive plays that are passes over the last 5 years, plus 2023 for the Packers. then think about how pathetic the run game has become. It's telling me that they need to rebuild that offensive line. I wouldn't make anyone's job untouchable. They need a long term fix, not a tire patch to get through a short span of time. That said, they really need to find a true animal for the defensive line. The kind of guy who, when asked about how he likes his steak cooked says to run the steer past him and he'll rip off a chunk of it to eat as it's passing.

NFL Football Stats - NFL Team Passing Play Percentage | TeamRankings.com

NFL Football passing play percentage, by team.
www.teamrankings.com www.teamrankings.com
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Would love if they built both trenches to be tough. Start there and work your way out.
 
If you've heard it once, you've heard it a million times.

The Green Bay Packers have one of the top offensive lines in football.

Coming into the season, that was certainly the thought.

With David Bakhtiari and Elgton Jenkins returning to form a formidable left side, there was confidence that Jordan Love's blind side would be protected.

Josh Myers as a former second-round pick could take a leap into being the player general manager Brian Gutekunst envisioned when he selected him one pick in front of Kansas City's Creed Humphrey.

Jon Runyan Jr. had been nothing if not steady during the first three seasons.

Zach Tom and Yosh Njiman were going to battle things out, but the loser of that battle could make for an excellent swing tackle.

Sure, quarterback Jordan Love was going to have some struggles to start the season, but his offensive line would be able to carry the offense through some of those issues.

That was the thought.

It took all of six games for it to go up in smoke.

Bakhtiari's injury history is well-documented. It's not his fault. The mind is willing. His body simply wasn't able. Bakhtiari played one game and watched two more before being placed on injured reserve to have knee surgery that ended his season and possibly his career with the Packers.

Instead of Njiman, who started 21 games in his career and the Packers used a second-round tender to keep this offseason, taking Bakhtiari's place, it was Rasheed Walker.

Walker was solid in training camp to beat out Nijman. Walker's promotion falls in line with what has been Green Bay's general attitude toward 2023: When in doubt, go with the young guy.

While the team's general attitude toward Njiman this season has made their offseason decision to keep him puzzling at best, Walker's camp and preseason has not carried over to the regular season.

Walker has allowed two sacks and 13 pressures in five starts, according to Pro Football Focus. Of 58 offensive tackles with 50 percent playing time, he ranks 41st in its pass-blocking efficiency, which measures sacks, hits and hurries allowed per pass-protecting snap.

There has been no indication that Walker will be replaced by Njiman. Based on the aforementioned attitude of leaning toward youth and inexperience, it's likely Walker will stay on the field.

Right tackle Zach Tom had a couple of rough games with Detroit and Las Vegas, but rebounded nicely against the Broncos. He's been a bright spot for most of the season.
The interior, which was always where this group could falter, has been the most disappointing part of the offensive line.

Perhaps due to a knee injury, Jenkins has regressed after a Pro Bowl season. He had a strong finish to 2022 but has not looked anything like the player who had emerged as one of the top guards in the NFL.

The interior combination of Runyan, Myers and Jenkins have allowed 22 pressures between them, according to PFF. Each of them have allowed at least six, with Runyan yielding 10.

That's at least one per game.

The Packers should be asking themselves whether or not Jordan Love is the answer at quarterback, but a fair retort is who could succeed with this kind of pressure constantly in their face?

One of the ways coach Matt LaFleur has tried to combat that was getting the ball out of Love's hands quickly.

When asked whether that was getting the quarterback into a rhythm or not trusting his protection, LaFleur's answer gave some insight.

"Yeah, I think all of the above. You’re always trying to get – especially when we haven’t had as much success – trying to get completions and let guys catch and run and try to get your playmakers the ball in space."

Saying “All of the above” means LaFleur did admit, even if in passing, that he didn't trust his protection unit.

That likely isn't a scenario LaFleur envisioned when this team was put together.

All of those failures are just in the passing game.

That doesn't even begin to account for the Packers' lack of success on the ground.

Yes, AJ Dillon has struggled for most of the season, but there haven't exactly been holes opening for their running backs to run through.

The big-bodied back is coming off his best game of the season with 61 yards on 15 carries.

That wouldn't be something to get too excited about in a normal year, but that's the state of the Packers' run game in 2023.

Of their preferred starters on the offensive line, only Tom and Bakhtiari have above-average run-blocking grades at PFF. Of course, Bakhtiari’s played in only one game.

Jenkins, Runyan, Walker and Myers rank in the bottom half of their position groups in terms of run blocking.

So, to recap, the Packers' offensive line doesn't pass block well and hasn’t been able to gain any traction in the run game, either.

Other than that, how was the play, Mrs. Lincoln?

If the offense is going to get back on track, as it usually does, everything will start up front. That will require every member of an underachieving group to finally live up to the preseason hype.
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The Nijman decision reeks of analytics that are skewed in Walkers favor despite his obvious failure on the field…
 
Every time I heard that this past preseason, I had to shake my head and wonder what these people were thinking. The two best OL players were more than likely not going to be able to contribute heavily, and if they did, it would be limited in snaps. Also, with a first year starting QB, the defenses were going to expose every weak spot in that OL, so they could get to the young QB and rattle him.
 
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