2025 NFL Season Thread

GBP4EVER said:
WHy would anyone want to play for Dallas when Jerry pretty much shits on people during contract talks

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Cowboys' Parsons reports amid unsettled deal

Micah Parsons reported to training camp in Oxnard, California, on Monday, but what's not clear is whether Parsons will take part in practice when the Cowboys begin workouts Tuesday as he awaits a long-term extension.
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Sitting here listening to the news/sports - Jerry Jones believes he is a GOD as a GM.
Listen to his comments today . . . rambling like he believes nobody in the NFL is better than he is. I would say he is entertaining but it's actually kind of creepy listening to him.
 


I genuinely don’t understand this franchise. Would love to see GB get him but my guess is Detroit (though I don’t know their current cap situation).
 
rpiotr01 said:


I genuinely don’t understand this franchise. Would love to see GB get him but my guess is Detroit (though I don’t know their current cap situation).
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Mike Brown has always been a cheap ass running that team. Yesterday made a statement about Stewart not being signed and how if he got arrested and put in jail why should he still have to pay him. Though next sentence he said it's highly unlikely it happens and both sides need to make a deal. If it's highly unlikely drop the demand his guarantee's void if he's arrested and get him signed. Otherwise why did you draft a guy you think could go to jail?
 
GBP4EVER said:
Mike Brown has always been a cheap ass running that team. Yesterday made a statement about Stewart not being signed and how if he got arrested and put in jail why should he still have to pay him. Though next sentence he said it's highly unlikely it happens and both sides need to make a deal. If it's highly unlikely drop the demand his guarantee's void if he's arrested and get him signed. Otherwise why did you draft a guy you think could go to jail?
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Did other guys in the first round sign with that language? Did the Bengals make previous first rounders sign with that language? Did someone put a gun to their head and force them to draft Stewart if they were afraid of him going to jail? The answer to all of the above is "no", just drop it and sign your guy.
 
I agree with the Bengals owner on the conditioned guarantees.

Hell, that should be standard. And, the money shouldn't be guaranteed during suspension or if Non Football Injuries activities in violation of contract.
 
Keg Man said:
I agree with the Bengals owner on the conditioned guarantees.

Hell, that should be standard. And, the money shouldn't be guaranteed during suspension or if Non Football Injuries activities in violation of contract.
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i can understand that logic, but it just isn't the standard, and most likely never will be. football is the most profitable sport in the us, but star players make less than in basketball and baseball where careers are generally longer and less susceptible to major injuries. i understand that football teams are larger than basketball and baseball, so money available has to be spread over more players, but when you draft someone in the first round, it is standard to fully guarantee their salary. don't forget that if the rookie contracts weren't pretty much predetermined, salaries would likely be significantly higher.
 
realitybytes said:
i can understand that logic, but it just isn't the standard, and most likely never will be. football is the most profitable sport in the us, but star players make less than in basketball and baseball where careers are generally longer and less susceptible to major injuries. i understand that football teams are larger than basketball and baseball, so money available has to be spread over more players, but when you draft someone in the first round, it is standard to fully guarantee their salary. don't forget that if the rookie contracts weren't pretty much predetermined, salaries would likely be significantly higher.
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Even bigger picture, I just think there are certain things an org can do that are like investing in infrastructure. Maybe you think oh it’s throwing money away but the long term benefits outweigh the spend. Just treating your players square is one of those things. Teams get enough money to pay their players before they turn on the lights. I get that “cash out the door” is different than the cap but especially for a draft pick, the theoretical bit of money you save is not worth more than the downstream effects of being known as a cheapskate org.
 
realitybytes said:
i can understand that logic, but it just isn't the standard, and most likely never will be. football is the most profitable sport in the us, but star players make less than in basketball and baseball where careers are generally longer and less susceptible to major injuries. i understand that football teams are larger than basketball and baseball, so money available has to be spread over more players, but when you draft someone in the first round, it is standard to fully guarantee their salary. don't forget that if the rookie contracts weren't pretty much predetermined, salaries would likely be significantly higher.
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maybe it "isn't the standard", but it should be. One thing I would slightly disagree with you on is that the top players in the NFL make similar money to the top NBA and MLB players. And relative to guaranteed contracts, MLB players have fewer serious / career threatening injuries (unless they are pitchers) and I believe in the NFL the % of time players are injured/unavailable to play is greater. And if a player misses any games due to outside influences, like Cincy is proposing - the "guaranteed money" should be reduced proportionally to the games missed. If you get a 100% guaranteed contract, and you miss time not because of football activity . . . . you shouldn't get rewarded.
 
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