2023-24 Milwaukee Bucks Season Thread

TW said:
The move from Griffin to Doc wasn't a bad one, it was a horrible move.
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one thing i can virtually guarantee is that the fans won't be able to bully the team into another mid-season firing and hiring of a new head coach.
 
realitybytes said:
one thing i can virtually guarantee is that the fans won't be able to bully the team into another mid-season firing and hiring of a new head coach.
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I think the play on the court was self evident that something was wrong with the team. Griffin wasn't the guy for the job, and quite frankly, neither is Rivers. The guy they should have pursued, and didn't, was Nurse. But that's neither here nor there, the whole fiasco has to be on Horst's plate. He's the guy that convinced upper management that he had it all figured out when he decided to destroy the roster over the last couple of years. The man has done nothing that has been logical. In fact, people like Barkley, and others who know that game, have been echoing what I'm saying. They know the Bucks are doing it to themselves.

Eventually it boils down to the ownership, who sticks by someone like Horst when he should be ridden out of town on a rail.
 
TW said:
I think the play on the court was self evident that something was wrong with the team. Griffin wasn't the guy for the job, and quite frankly, neither is Rivers. The guy they should have pursued, and didn't, was Nurse. But that's neither here nor there, the whole fiasco has to be on Horst's plate. He's the guy that convinced upper management that he had it all figured out when he decided to destroy the roster over the last couple of years. The man has done nothing that has been logical. In fact, people like Barkley, and others who know that game, have been echoing what I'm saying. They know the Bucks are doing it to themselves.

Eventually it boils down to the ownership, who sticks by someone like Horst when he should be ridden out of town on a rail.
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i'm still not sure i get the complete picture of where you stand on this whole horst issue.
 
realitybytes said:
i'm still not sure i get the complete picture of where you stand on this whole horst issue.
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Horst is the architect of the failures through his trades, and deals with free agents. He's let guys like Tucker slip away, when they had them, and would have let Crowder go at the end of this past year, if it hadn't been for a coaching change.

He doesn't find players that actually add to the team, he finds players that offer alternatives, but in the end, no matter how many points Lillard scores it isn't going to make up for the fact that the Bucks no longer have a point guard who plays solid D, and it's essential in the way this team operates on the floor.

If they fail this year, and it appears they will, and miserably, Horst will find himself on the outside looking in. In my mind, the sooner the better. He is a failure when it comes to judging talent.
 
TW said:
Horst is the architect of the failures through his trades, and deals with free agents. He's let guys like Tucker slip away, when they had them, and would have let Crowder go at the end of this past year, if it hadn't been for a coaching change.

He doesn't find players that actually add to the team, he finds players that offer alternatives, but in the end, no matter how many points Lillard scores it isn't going to make up for the fact that the Bucks no longer have a point guard who plays solid D, and it's essential in the way this team operates on the floor.

If they fail this year, and it appears they will, and miserably, Horst will find himself on the outside looking in. In my mind, the sooner the better. He is a failure when it comes to judging talent.
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so you're saying he's not very good.
 
I actually like Beverley on the floor. He plays defense at the point, and hustles constantly. He also talks on defense, which was lacking with Payne, and doesn't happen much with Lillard. He brings a lot of the same thing as Portis brings to the floor, and the sideline. I think this was a Doc acquisition, not Horst. Just my opinion.

The Bucks played well last night on both offense and defense, but we have to remember this was the Hornets, and they've only won 10 games this year. Not exactly a formidable opponent.

I'm hoping that adding Beverley to the mix is going to also improve Middleton's game when he gets back. I see him as a real solid player off the bench at point. There's still a glimmer of light at the end of the tunnel.

Now, if Doc can use Beverley and Connaughton to ignite offense off the bench, and Portis to continue his perimeter play and at the bucket, we might be into something decent.
 
Wow! Lillard played some defense last night! Connaughton got a chance to play his game, not have to stand off to the side. He had his head in on defense and offense. Tied for tops in assists, with 5. Giannis didn't shoot a 3, fortunately. He was 10 for 10 inside the paint. His only actual misses were from outside the pivot area. One of the best offensive performances I saw out of him this year, because he played inside himself on both offense and defense.

Beverley brings a spark. We now have two of them. Him and Portis. This was a solid game from a defensive aspect. Everyone was hustling, and winded because of it, but not on rubbery legs because they were getting help from Dame.

I wonder how Khris is going to establish himself in this rotation when he returns. There's guys out there who have earned their floor time since Doc got there.

I have to admit, they are slowly working their way back into defense. It has to be Doc's practice sessions. Watching Beverley on the floor talking on defense is a real breath of fresh air. It's going to rub off on others.

I'm still not confident as to where this is going, but it looks a lot better now than it did two weeks ago, that's for sure. Tonight they face a challenge from the back-to-back game. They got their starters some rest last night, so that's gonna help.
 
TW said:
Wow! Lillard played some defense last night! Connaughton got a chance to play his game, not have to stand off to the side. He had his head in on defense and offense. Tied for tops in assists, with 5. Giannis didn't shoot a 3, fortunately. He was 10 for 10 inside the paint. His only actual misses were from outside the pivot area. One of the best offensive performances I saw out of him this year, because he played inside himself on both offense and defense.

Beverley brings a spark. We now have two of them. Him and Portis. This was a solid game from a defensive aspect. Everyone was hustling, and winded because of it, but not on rubbery legs because they were getting help from Dame.

I wonder how Khris is going to establish himself in this rotation when he returns. There's guys out there who have earned their floor time since Doc got there.

I have to admit, they are slowly working their way back into defense. It has to be Doc's practice sessions. Watching Beverley on the floor talking on defense is a real breath of fresh air. It's going to rub off on others.

I'm still not confident as to where this is going, but it looks a lot better now than it did two weeks ago, that's for sure. Tonight they face a challenge from the back-to-back game. They got their starters some rest last night, so that's gonna help.
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Guess AJ Green had a big game on defense last night to fans on X were saying. If I am MKE in off-season I am looking to move on from Middleton see if you can trade him in a package of a couple good bench players and maybe a pick or two.
 
GBP4EVER said:
Guess AJ Green had a big game on defense last night to fans on X were saying. If I am MKE in off-season I am looking to move on from Middleton see if you can trade him in a package of a couple good bench players and maybe a pick or two.
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Green did play a solid game. He's improving every time he hits the floor, and gaining confidence. Surprisingly, the guy helping him get there the most is Connaughton, who has worked well with him in combination out there.

It is going to be difficult moving forward with Khris to be honest. The biggest problem is that he has a huge contract, and that's going to be difficult to trade. Also, I like Middleton's game. But, with Lillard, there's nothing out there for Khris any longer.
 
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