2021 Off Season Thread

[57packer]

I've seen something similar related to LT. The vast majority of Super Bowl winners did not have an elite LT. From the article (which is older now so maybe not as relevant):

"For instance, over the last 20 years, the Super Bowl winner has had an all-pro left tackle only twice and a Pro Bowler only four times."

These kinds of things probably point to the idea that players of that caliber are somewhat rare and that maybe it's best to have a balance of salary distributed among more "really good" players than a handful of "great" players. You need great players to win, but maybe more important is to have some really good young/cheap players and fewer holes for the opposition to exploit.

I wouldn't consider Jones at the money they are talking about. That's where the Dillon pick gets you further ahead. Let Jones walk, use a little of his money to re-sign JWillams to a modest contract and the rest of the money to improve other places and run with a Dillon/JWilliams/Rookie running back group next year.

 

[dannobanano]

I think J-Williams sees himself as a starting RB, in the absence of Jones, and believes he should be paid as one.
If that’s the case, he won’t be back either.
A draft pick is almost a certainty, but I don’t see it being an early round pick.
Early Day 3 may be the sweet spot to pick one.

 

[Budman]

I think J-Williams sees himself as a starting RB, in the absence of Jones, and believes he should be paid as one.
If that’s the case, he won’t be back either.
A draft pick is almost a certainty, but I don’t see it being an early round pick.
Early Day 3 may be the sweet spot to pick one.

I've heard people say that RB's are easily plugged into an offense and they tend to produce a little quicker in an offense. Is that true? I know I've also heard that WR's take a bit longer to get the gist of the offense. What are your thoughts?

 

[dannobanano]

I've heard people say that RB's are easily plugged into an offense and they tend to produce a little quicker in an offense. Is that true? I know I've also heard that WR's take a bit longer to get the gist of the offense. What are your thoughts?

Yes on both counts.
The biggest hurdle for a RB to learn is becoming dependable in pass protection. Once the achieve that they can be an every down contributor.
Many college WR’s get by on athletic ability (mostly), and many enter the NFL having to learn a route tree, blocking scheme’s, etc.
It’s a much longer arch to the WR learning curve as a result.

 

[Mark87]

I've heard people say that RB's are easily plugged into an offense and they tend to produce a little quicker in an offense. Is that true? I know I've also heard that WR's take a bit longer to get the gist of the offense. What are your thoughts?

Depends on the system and or the players... I don't think you can broad-brush it at all IMHO.

 

[57packer]

Agree with Mark, while it "sorta" seems like RBs make more early impact, every year it seems you see several, or more, rookie WRs who come right in and do some major work.

I'd say you could paint the MM/AR offense as not rookie receiver friendly in the sense that a rookie almost never does much of anything. Not sure about the ML/AR offense - they really haven't drafted a higher round rookie WR yet.

 

[dannobanano]

Agree, that there are rookie WR’s that contribute early.
But on a % basis, it seems rookie RB’s contribute more often than do rookie WR’s.
Also, it’s more likely that a rookie WR that contributes early was a fairly high draft pick (Justin Jefferson, Chase Claypool), where-as rookie RB’s that contribute early can be found all through the draft. Take JAX RB James Robinson (UDFA) is a prime example.

 

[rpiotr01]

Rodgers is not a rookie friendly QB.

For backs, you need to know your blitz pickup assignments. Any given play can kill the franchise QB if you miss, so that limits the amount a guy like Dillon, for example, will see the field, depending on the situation (ahead on the scoreboard vs behind and more likely to have to throw). We’ve seen what Rodgers tends to think about rookie WRs, they need to know their stuff before he accepts you and he’s never been a QB to just throw to the open spot no matter who the receiver is.

 

[realitybytes]

he’s never been a QB to just throw to the open spot no matter who the receiver is.

in fact, he's more likely to force the ball to a double-covered adams than throw to a wide open 1st or 2nd year receiver.

 

[Cheesedog]

in fact, he's more likely to force the ball to a double-covered adams than throw to a wide open 1st or 2nd year receiver.

The Gunslinger Arod is not... But sometimes it would be nice for him to get over his trust issues with receivers.