Post Game: Vikings Defeat Green Bay

So my issue is not with this team losing. My issue is the mental and fundamental mistakes.

11 Penalties
Turnovers
Missed blocks
Bad Tackling

I realize we have no depth and talent is void but these mistakes are coaching issues and they continue to happen week to week with no improvement.

This is why I am concerned with ML and his staff. Maybe I am wrong but these are big concerns for me.
 
I can't say that I'm surprised by the outcome. I didn't get this game this week in the area so I can't comment much further but this is what the season is gonna be from here on out. I predicted 5 wins and I may have been a little overzealous with that prediction. When and how did this get so bad? I mean, it feels as if the bottom has dropped out. Not a gradual decline but a sharp decline. I'm not sure one position group on this team is even close to top notch.
 
Budman said:
When and how did this get so bad? I mean, it feels as if the bottom has dropped out. Not a gradual decline but a sharp decline.
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i agree with mark - rodgers covered a lot of warts. and rodgers + adams even moreso. this team didn't suddenly get bad. the talent and depth were being eroded away by a poor gm. we have gotten progressively worse since 2018, when gute took over for tt. in past years, the formula has always been to have a top-notch qb, a very good offensive line, one superstar receiver and a couple more decent, but not spectacular receivers, plus a very good running back. add to that a mediocre defense and a very good field goal kicker and you have a recipe for a team that wins a lot in the regular season, but bows out early in the playoffs. and every once in a while, the defense has a great year and you hopefully win a super bowl. but all of that has been lost through attrition, free agency, and trades and the cupboard has never been adequately restocked by gute.
 
Lots of dropped passes today lots! These WR are garbage and IMO won't develop into anything. The whole WR room needs to be rebuilt.

Love's vision is in question. Few times there was a person wide open and he just never saw them.

The defense is what is is. Barry needs to be fired now.
 
GBP4EVER said:
The whole WR room needs to be rebuilt.
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isn't that what gute has been doing for the past several years?
in 2018, gute drafted three wide receivers. mvs was the only one worth a d@mn, and even he was a #3 at best.
in 2019, he drafted jace sternberger (not a wr, i know)
in 2020, he drafted josiah deguara (also not a wr) he's the only one from those first 3 drafts still on the team (but why?)
in 2021, he drafted amari rodgers. lol.
in 2022, he drafted watson, doubs, and toure.
in 2023, he drafted reed, wicks, and dubose. plus musgrave and kraft.

just look at how many pass catchers he has drafted in those six drafts, and how many were abject failures. of course, there's still a few that we are hanging onto, but are any of them good? doubs seems pretty decent, or is he just the best of a bunch of jags? reed seems to have something worth holding onto. wicks has looked okay when given a chance.

i don't think we are completely devoid of talent at wr. but i do question whether they are being coached up well enough. and i also question gute's ability to rebuild the wr room. or any other part of the team for that matter.
 
realitybytes said:
isn't that what gute has been doing for the past several years?
in 2018, gute drafted three wide receivers. mvs was the only one worth a d@mn, and even he was a #3 at best.
in 2019, he drafted jace sternberger (not a wr, i know)
in 2020, he drafted josiah deguara (also not a wr) he's the only one from those first 3 drafts still on the team (but why?)
in 2021, he drafted amari rodgers. lol.
in 2022, he drafted watson, doubs, and toure.
in 2023, he drafted reed, wicks, and dubose. plus musgrave and kraft.

just look at how many pass catchers he has drafted in those six drafts, and how many were abject failures. of course, there's still a few that we are hanging onto, but are any of them good? doubs seems pretty decent, or is he just the best of a bunch of jags? reed seems to have something worth holding onto. wicks has looked okay when given a chance.

i don't think we are completely devoid of talent at wr. but i do question whether they are being coached up well enough. and i also question gute's ability to rebuild the wr room. or any other part of the team for that matter.
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I agree. The issue with the front office is they only draft WRs in the 2nd round or later. Why do you think it takes them 2 to 3 years to develop? We need a WR in the first that is more NFL ready.

Watson is from a small school. Doubs is a 4th rounder. Wicks was undrafted. Touri is a 7th rounder. We have no veteran WR either.

They continue to ignore the WR position at least in the 1st round. No draft pick higher than a 2nd since Walker in 2002?
 
I started thinking about this after the Vegas game and wondered what changes we would make. As it turns out, the answer was no changes. The OL looks the same from left to right even though people who study the film say that it's been a tire fire with only Tom and Jenkins playing at an average NFL level.
No one has been held accountable.

We knew the WRs and TEs would have growing pains and they definitely have with bad routes, wrong routes, and dropped passes. Seven games in, the same mistakes are being made. Who's coaching these guys? Our QB, though far from perfect, can't even be fairly evaluated because film study from quite a few experts show receivers widening routes, quitting on routes, and taking the wrong route. They do this game after game. What looks to the fan watching the game as an underthrow or overthrow or errant throw might be a receiver running to the wrong place on the field.

Probably the best way to check the accuracy of the QB is when he's running for his life because the OL can't block and he has to make a running throw to receiver that changed his route to help him. Strangely, those have been the best plays this team has made and seem to only happen in the 2nd half after MLF takes the leash off Love.

We can't win with this defense playing bend but don't break. With them not playing aggressively, keeping everything in front of them, and taking no chances. This young offense needs turnovers and field position. They need to get on the field so they can build up a rhythm. They can't sit on the bench for 7, 8, or 9 minutes without seeing the ball.
That's a coaching philosophy that should have already changed, but never seems to change.

Why has Sean Rhyan not replaced Runyan? Why is Nijman being kept out of games? Would our offense look worse with those changes? I can't believe that it would.

When will the defense change its philosophy and play aggressively. Will we lose more than we have been losing? Is this staff a staff that can help to improve a young team?

I'm fearing the answer is no.
 
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