Rodgers Wants Out

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57packer said:
Random thoughts on what's happened in recent days.

I think AR is partly upset because he didn't pull a Favre and speculate about retirement. I think he believed he could avoid the same scenario. It didn't work because in the end, organizations fundamentally need to look past the here and now. Maybe too much at times. The Packers as an organization are bigger than AR (or Jordy, or Farvey, or ?), like any other large organization. He has a hard time coming to terms with that.

I really think the trade-up for Love is what amplified the situation. If Love just "falls" in their lap, it's easier for everyone involved to say that is was just a BPA situation in the draft. It happens. A much more passive situation. Targeting Love told AR that they were actively looking to replace him.

Calling out the organization's character and culture while absolving everyone but the FO is just manipulating the situation to stay in fans and teammates good graces. Where and when exactly did the change take place? Seems to me the organization took care of Kenny Clark, BakhT, AJones, etc., etc. They take care of their people it seems, as much as any team. Rarely does a coach or player get a quick hook. The Packers, if anything, seem to value their own too much at times.

They also accumulated enough talent that had the players (and coaches) taken advantage of their chances against the Seahawks and Bucs, Aaron should have been in two more Super Bowls. Those weren't FO failures, those were on the field failures for which he bears his share of the blame.

It's kind of a trite and accepted statement that "people" make the organization great, not the corporation. Only partly true. The end truth is that "people" leave all the time. I know first hand that solid organizations move on even when really excellent people decide to leave or are forced to leave. That includes the people at the top . . . and the bottom . . . and everywhere in between. There may be stumbles and set-backs but if you have decent leadership you find ways to get back on track.

You value your employees so they buy in to making things work but that doesn't mean things stay the same. All the time the FO is being cognizant of the fact that nothing last forever and people need to be replaced at some point. Over the decades, the organization is still there, still getting things done, while the people that made it great at points in time have moved on, and new people are there making it great. Everyone is replaceable in the end. AR is having to come to grips with this at a younger age than many.

Lastly, if he thinks character and culture are gone from the Packers, I wonder how he'll feel in a couple of years if he's traded to the LV Raiders.
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Agree everyone blames Packers FO saying Rodgers only got to one SB. Well 2011 they go 15-1 and choke at home vs the Giants. 2014 no excuse for that collapse and 2020 they crapped the bed in a game they should have won. So right there they should have gotten to 3 more SBs so lets say they win 1 of the 3 and Rodgers is 2 and 2 in in SB's would people still bitch saying the team did not do enough for Rodgers?
 
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Tell Rodgers to shut up and play or Dillon crushes his skull between his quads. LOL

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GBP4EVER said:
Agree everyone blames Packers FO saying Rodgers only got to one SB. Well 2011 they go 15-1 and joke at home vs the Giants. 2014 no excuse for that collapse and 2020 they crapped the bed in a game they should have won. So right there they should have gotten to 3 more SBs so lets say they win 1 of the 3 and Rodgers is 2 and 2 in in SB's would people still bitch saying the team did not do enough for Rodgers?
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It’s a team game. I get that argument but it rings hollow. The organization neglected issues especially on defense, player evaluation was at best suspect and 12 masked so many flaws.
 
A lot to digest in this thread today, not going to add a lot more. I will say this. Aaron believes as a vet he deserves more from his team in the way of respect etc. That's not too uncommon in superstar players however Aaron is coming to grips that his career is in the twilight stages.

My biggest issue with his interview is he didn't praise his coach or coaches at all. That's a problem. You have a gripe with the GM and his henchmen fine, but ML and his system culture helped win an MVP again, if he doesn't see that then frankly I doubt he is capable of winning another title because he has become self absorbed in himself. A selfish teammate is tough to be around but your leader becoming like that is untenable.
 
Mark87 said:
Total off-the-cuff note, Rodgers says he lost 15 plus pounds with his wife's cleanse and diet stuff. That's a dangerous amount of weight to lose for a pro athlete who was already slimmed down a lot last season.
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Did not hear that but if that's the case he's down to 210. That's pretty lite for a 6'2 pro sports player.
 
GBP4EVER said:
Did not hear that but if that's the case he's down to 210. That's pretty lite for a 6'2 pro sports player.
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I mentioned he looked sick in that picture from the derby. That 15 pounds explains it. A couple hits and he is toast.
 
44blitz said:
A lot to digest in this thread today, not going to add a lot more. I will say this. Aaron believes as a vet he deserves more from his team in the way of respect etc. That's not too uncommon in superstar players however Aaron is coming to grips that his career is in the twilight stages.

My biggest issue with his interview is he didn't praise his coach or coaches at all. That's a problem. You have a gripe with the GM and his henchmen fine, but ML and his system culture helped win an MVP again, if he doesn't see that then frankly I doubt he is capable of winning another title because he has become self absorbed in himself. A selfish teammate is tough to be around but your leader becoming like that is untenable.
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I agree. And I don't think Arod ever really saw himself as part of the reason they lost those NFCC games. He was fine, it was everyone else that didn't get the job done. I agree that is a bad situation.
 
Cheesedog said:
I mentioned he looked sick in that picture from the derby. That 15 pounds explains it. A couple hits and he is toast.
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Aging pro-athletes will do/try some strange stuff in an attempt to stay young/relevant.
Its hard to come to grips and shake hands with Father Time.
They just can’t stop chasing that gold buckle.
 
So Jones says he doesn't care if Arod was back or not he would have signed. All of GB top WR skipped OTA...

Looks like the locker room may already be divided..
 
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