Preseason Week 2 : Green Bay vs Washington Thread

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  1. Mark87

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    The Green Bay Packers will go on the road to play the Washington Redskins in their second game of the preseason.

    It will be the 26th time that Green Bay has played Washington during the preseason, the second most in team history behind only the Packers’ 30 games against the N.Y. Giants.
    This is the first preseason meeting between the clubs since 1995, when the teams played at Lambeau Field.

    The Packers are visiting the Redskins in the preseason for the first time since 1978.
    Green Bay has played at Washington each of the past two seasons. The two met in a 2015 Wild Card playoff, a 35-18 victory by the Packers. In Week 11 last season, the Redskins won, 42-24.
    With a win over the Philadelphia Eagles last week, the Packers won their preseason opener for the third consecutive year.
    With games against Philadelphia and Washington, this is the first time since 1985 that Green Bay has faced two teams from the NFC East in the preseason. That year the Packers opened the preseason with road games at Dallas and at the N.Y. Giants.

    Dating back to 2000, this is just the second time (2013) that Green Bay has faced three NFC teams in the preseason.
    The Packers will finish up the road slate of the preseason with a trip to Denver to play the Broncos on Saturday, Aug. 26. It will be Green Bay's first preseason trip to Denver since 2008, when it won, 27-24.

    Preseason games are televised over the 16-station Packers TV Network throughout the state of Wisconsin, Upper Michigan, northeastern Minnesota, the Quad Cities, Des Moines, Cedar Rapids and Waterloo in Iowa, Omaha in Nebraska, Fargo in North Dakota, Sioux Falls in South Dakota and Anchorage, Fairbanks and Juneau in Alaska.
    The top-notch broadcast team includes CBS’s Kevin Harlan (play-by-play) alongside fellow CBS broadcaster Rich Gannon (analyst), with Lance Allan of WTMJ-TV serving as the sideline reporter. Allan will also host an informative half-hour pregame show featuring former Packers tackle Mark Tauscher.
    In addition to flagship stations WTMJ-TV in Milwaukee and WGBA-TV in Green Bay the game will be televised over WKOW/ABC, Madison, Wis.; WAOW/ABC, Wausau/Rhinelander, Wis.; WXOW/ABC, La Crosse, Wis.; WQOW/ABC, Eau Claire, Wis.; WLUC/NBC, Escanaba/Marquette, Mich.; KQDS-TV/FOX, Duluth/Superior, Minn.; WHBF-TV/CBS, Davenport, Iowa (Quad Cities); KCWI-TV/CW, Des Moines, Iowa; KWWL-TV/NBC, Cedar Rapids/Waterloo, Iowa; KMTV-TV/CBS, Omaha, Neb.; KVRR/IND, Fargo, North Dakota; KDLT/NBC, Sioux Falls, South Dakota; KYUR/ABC, Anchorage, Alaska; KATN/ABC, Fairbanks, Alaska amd KJUD/ABC, Juneau, Alaska.
    Milwaukee’s WTMJ (620 AM), airing Green Bay games since November 1929, heads up the Packers Radio Network that is made up of 50 stations in five states. Wayne Larrivee (play-by-play) and two-time Packers Pro Bowler Larry McCarren (analyst) call the action. McCarren first joined the team’s broadcasts in 1995 and enters his 23rd season calling Packers games. After originally being paired together in 1999, McCarren and Larrivee enter their 19th season of broadcasts together.

    The Packers currently have an 89-man roster that is composed of 44 offensive players, 41 defensive players and four specialists.
    Of the 90 players on Green Bay’s roster, 41 of them (45.6 percent) were draft picks of the Packers. Dating back to 2007, Green Bay has at least one member of each draft class still on the roster.
    Green Bay has 43 players on the roster that began their careers as undrafted free agents, with 36 of those originally signed by Green Bay.
    Nearly 60 percent of the players (53 of 89, 59.6 percent) on Green Bay’s roster entered the league as a sixth-round or seventh-round pick or as an undrafted player.
    The Packers have five players on the roster that played in the NFL prior to the 2009 season. Four of those five players were draft picks of the Packers (QB Aaron Rodgers , K Mason Crosby , WR Jordy Nelson and LB Clay Matthews ) and three have made at least one Pro Bowl.
    Of the 89 players on the roster, 77 began their pro careers with the Packers (86.5 percent).
    Only 21 of the 90 players on the roster (23.3 percent) were selected in the first three rounds of the draft, with 19 being drafted by the Packers.
    BY AGE (as of August 19)
    21-24: 56 players
    25-28: 24 players
    29-32: 7 players
    33-plus: 2 players

    R-1: 41 players
    2-3: 22 players
    4-5: 10 players
    6-9: 10 players
    10-plus: 6 players

    1st: 7 players
    2nd/3rd: 14 players
    4th/5th: 15 players
    6th/7th: 10 players
    Undrafted: 43 players

    Packers vs. Redskins:
    All-time, Preseason: 14-11-0
    All-time, Regular season: 18-14-1
    All-time, Postseason: 2-1
    All-time, in Washington: 5-9
    Streaks: The Packers have won six of the past eight meetings.
    Last meeting, regular season: Nov. 20, 2016, FedEx Field, Washington won, 42-24

    Mike McCarthy: 124-69-1, .642 (incl. 10-8 postseason); 12th NFL season
    Jay Gruden: 21-27-1, .438 (incl. 0-1 postseason); 4th NFL season
    Head to Head: McCarthy 1-1
    vs. Opponent: McCarthy 3-2 vs. Redskins; Gruden 1-1 vs. Packers

    MIKE McCARTHY in his 12th year as the Packers' 14th head coach.
    Led the Packers to their eighth consecutive playoff appearance last season, tied for the third-longest streak in NFL history. Has also led the team to nine playoff appearances in the last 10 years (2007, 2009-16).
    Ranks second in franchise history in total victories, trailing only Curly Lambeau.
    Guided the Packers to top-10 finishes in scoring in eight straight seasons (2007-14), joining the Patriots as the only other team to accomplish the feat over that time; Packers finished first overall in scoring in 2014.
    Reached the 100-win plateau faster than any active NFL head coach, needing just 155 games.
    Joined Vince Lombardi and Mike Holmgren as the only coaches to guide the Packers to a Super Bowl title with a win over Pittsburgh in Super Bowl XLV.

    JAY GRUDEN in his fourth year as the Redskins' 29th head coach
    Led a Washington team to an 8-7-1 record last season, giving the club consecutive winning seasons for the first time in 20 years. Gruden’s offenses also set franchise records in numerous categories, including net passing yards (4,758) and total net yards (6,545).
    As Bengals offensive coordinator, coached QB Andy Dalton to a 30-18 record as the Bengals’ starting QB from 2011-13, the fifth-most wins in the NFL over that span.
    Coached under his brother, Jon, in Tampa Bay, winning Super Bowl XXXVII as an offensive assistant for the Buccaneers.
    Completed 1,673 of 2,775 passes (60.3 percent) for 21,578 yards and 398 TDs with 99 INTs as a QB in the Arena Football League.

    The Packers first met the Redskins (then Boston Braves) in 1932, five days after Franklin D. Roosevelt won his first presidential election.
    The clubs met memorably in the 1936 NFL championship game. That year, Redskins owner George Preston Marshall, upset with his fans’ lack of support, was moving his team to Washington and didn’t want to host the championship in Boston. The NFL moved the game to New York’s Polo Grounds, where Green Bay claimed its fourth title, 21-6.
    The Packers and Redskins played the highest-scoring game in Monday Night Football history on Oct. 17, 1983, at Lambeau Field, in a game that featured 11 TDs and six FGs in the 48-47 Green Bay win.
    Despite playing in the same conference, the Packers and Redskins did not play against each other during the 1990s.

    Packers president & chief executive officer Mark Murphy played eight seasons (1977-84) with the Redskins, serving as co-captain from 1980-84, playing on the Super Bowl XVII championship team, and earning All-Pro and Pro Bowl honors in 1983...Packers DE Ricky Jean Francois played for Washington in 2015-16...Packers vice president of football administration/player finance Russ Ball spent the 2001 season as director of football administration for the Redskins…Green Bay defensive line coach Mike Trgovac held the same position in Washington from 2000-01...Green Bay secondary-safeties coach Darren Perry was born in Norfolk, Va., and attended high school in Chesapeake, Va. ...Washington S Will Blackmon was a fourth-round pick of the Packers in 2006 and played in Green Bay from 2006-09...Packers special teams coordinator Ron Zook coached at Virginia Tech in 1987...Washington assistant head coach/offensive line Bill Callahan coached the same position at Wisconsin from 1990-94...Washington TE Derek Carrier is from Edgerton, Wis., and went to school at Beloit College…Redskins TE Manasseh Garner played for the University of Wisconsin in 2010-11...Packesr G Thomas Evans played at Richmond...Packers LS Derek Hart played at James Madison...Packers RB William Stanback played at Virginia Union...Packers associate head coach/linebackers Winston Moss played for the Los Angeles Raiders with Redskins running backs coach Randy Jordan in 1993...Trgovac and Callahan coached in Philadelphia from 1995-97...Washington DL coach Jim Tomsula was Green Bay DT Ricky Jean Francois’ position coach in San Francisco from 2009-12…Packers TEs coach Brian Angelichio and Redskins QBs coach Kevin O’Connell served in the same positions with the Cleveland Browns in 2015…Washington WR Terrelle Pryor Sr. was also on the Browns’ roster in 2015…Washington wide receivers coach Ike Hilliard was coached by Packers special teams coordinator Ron Zook when he played wide receiver at Florida (1994-95)...Redskins G Brandon Scherff was coached at Iowa by Packers offensive perimeter coach David Raih (2011-12) and was teammates with DT Mike Daniels (2011)...Washington WR Brian Quick and Green Bay TE Lance Kendricks played together on the Los Angeles/St. Louis Rams offense from 2012-16…Packers RBs coach Ben Sirmans (2012-15) was on the Rams offensive coaching staff for four seasons with Quick…Packers WR Trevor Davis played at California with Washington WR Maurice Harris...Washington LB Trent Murphy played at Stanford with Green Bay LB Blake Martinez (2012-13), RB Ty Montgomery (2011-13) and T Kyle Murphy (2012-13)...Redskins offensive coordinator Matt Cavanaugh coached at Pittsburgh with Angelichio (2006-08) and assistant linebackers coach Scott McCurley (2005)...Cavanaugh and Trgovac are both from Youngstown, Ohio...Green Bay CB Donatello Brown was finishing his career at Valdosta State in 2016 while Washington assistant defensive backs coach James Rowe was the defensive coordinator…Green Bay S Ha Ha Clinton-Dix played at Alabama with Washington G Arie Kouandjio (2011-13), winning national championships in 2011 and 2012...Redskins LB Houston Bates and Packers S Kentrell Brice were Louisiana Tech teammates...Green Bay T Jason Spriggs played at Indiana from 2012-15 with Washington QB Nate Sudfeld...Packers FB Aaron Ripkowski played with Redskins P Tress Way, DL Stacy McGee and RB Samaje Perine at Oklahoma…Packers C Corey Linsley and Pryor Sr. teamed together on Ohio State’s offense…Green Bay T Robert Leff and S Jermaine Whitehead played with Washington CB Joshua Holsey at Auburn…Packers LB Jake Ryan and FB Joe Kerridge were teammates of Redskins G Kyle Kalis and DL Ondre Pipkins at Michigan…Packers QB Brett Hundley and DT Kenny Clark played with Redskins CB Fabian Moreau at UCLA.
  2. TW

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    This is an important game for all three QBs looking to make the Packer roster behind Rodgers. The winner, on the field, will get more snaps over the last two games, and put themselves in the drivers seat towards making the roster. I don't believe for a heartbeat that it's cut and dried that Hundley will be #2.

    What makes this push by the three of them even more to the front is the fact that the WR corps is in the same boat, guys fighting to make the roster, and they're going to play at their best level as well, to have a shot at sticking. It should make for an interesting game from the standpoint of passing.

    But, what we're going to see is McCarthy pushing his running game harder, because last week was horrible, and it needs to be addressed. If it doesn't improve, and if someone doesn't step up this week, we could see a move off free agency, for a veteran who's not signed, giving it a shot. How it will affect the passing game, I don't know.

    We're also going to see a lot of the nitro package of defense. There are a lot of bugs in it at this point, and they need to be worked out. Players who we thought were shoe-ins to make the team could end up on the bubble, if they can't play well in that concept. Personally, I think it will fail, if players don't understand their assignments any better than they did last week.

    The bright spot on the team this week is going to be the offensive line. I think they're going to establish control at the line of scrimmage, and give our QBs time to release the ball. As far as run blocking, it doesn't matter how good you do it if your RBs can't find the darned holes! That could be a problem.

    What I'm interested in seeing is whether or not our substitutes are capable of handling the Redskins subs. I like domination with second teams because it means you just may have guys who can step up, if there are injuries on the first team. You're only as good as your weakest link.

    I don't think we win this one, but it doesn't matter. Move the ball, and show you can score. On defense, prove you can stop them on 3rd down, and live with the broken play defense failures, because it's learning time.
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  3. eyecatcher

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    Will Rodgers take any snaps in this one?
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  4. eyecatcher

    eyecatcher Member

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    Washington was anemic on offense in week one. They put up 138 total yards. That's would be a bad half of football but to get that in a game is awful.
    The Packers need to do a better job of tackling. I saw countless missed tackles when I finally watched the game yesterday. The TD Philly scored had 2 missed tackles and that drive had at least 2 or 3 more. It is only preseason so wins and losses don't matter but improving on mistakes does so that is what I'll be looking for.
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  5. realitybytes

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    i thought there were at least three. matthews failed to bring down the qb and at least two guys whiffed on the receiver.
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  6. RailBird

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    Supposed to get a series or two maybe. My guess is no more then 1. 3-4 next week and that's it until Week 1.
  7. RailBird

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    Remember TW that there is only 1 cut down at the end now so you can carry the full roster, I believe back up QB will be decided the last game of preseason along with OL and WR.
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  8. TW

    TW Moderator

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    Callahan & Hill both have a chance of making an impact. If Hundley looks good, but to the Packers, Callahan & Hill offer more advancement potential, Hundley could be cut, or even traded, right up until the last preseason game. After that game, I think teams would hold out, and wait for cuts across the league before showing interest in players.

    You brought up an extremely interesting point. The huge number of free agent players who are going to hit the market following that last preseason game. We're talking about over 40% of the total guys in camp. It's even going to be a feeding frenzy to sign guys onto practice squads, or pick up guys you think might help your roster.
  9. eyecatcher

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    You are correct. I was thinking about just after the reception. Forgot Matthews whiffed before the pass. I was thinking that was an earlier play. I think that happened a couple times on that drive where they failed to take the QB down when they had him in their grasp.
  10. eyecatcher

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    Dom Capers said they counted 16 missed tackles in the Eagles game. Damn. Soft practices causing that? First game rust? They obviously will improve but it can't be difficult to improve on that. The Eagles ran 74 plays, had 3 punt returns, one interception and 2 fumble recoveries so 79 opportunities for tackles. They missed 20% of their tackle opportunities at that rate. No wonder it stuck out so bad to me.

    in 2015, the Packers were 20th in tackling efficiency missing 120 tackles on 1114 snaps. That is about 10.8% missed tackles. The league lead was 8.7%
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