2021 Off Season Thread

10 years ago this team was being built for the future. Or at leat that's what went around the boards and the news articles.GB, since TT, has always been building for the future. The future has netted 1 SB in 10 years. Not saying go all in or continually build for the future. There has to be some good draft picks, some decent FA's with an eye on that Lombardi. It's a hard balance and hard to do year in and year out.

As far as the GM goes, don't know why I find it interesting, but here was a chart from May 2020 showing the length of tenure of the NFL GM's(somewhat currently). Looks like a bout half have 5 years of experience or less. My roundabout question is this; Do NFL owners want to win in the immediate or do they want to build a long term powerhouse?

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Longest-Tenured GMs In The NFL

When we ran down the longest-tenured head coaches in the NFL, we found that less than half of the league’s current …
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  1. Jerry Jones (Dallas Cowboys): April 18, 1989[1]
  2. Mike Brown (Cincinnati Bengals): August 5, 1991[2]
  3. Bill Belichick (New England Patriots): January 27, 2000[3]
  4. Kevin Colbert (Pittsburgh Steelers): February 18, 2000[4]
  5. Mickey Loomis (New Orleans Saints): May 14, 2002
  6. Rick Spielman (Minnesota Vikings): May 30, 2006[5]
  7. Thomas Dimitroff (Atlanta Falcons): January 13, 2008
  8. John Schneider (Seattle Seahawks): January 19, 2010[6]
  9. Howie Roseman (Philadelphia Eagles): January 29, 2010
  10. John Elway (Denver Broncos): January 5, 2011[7]
  11. Les Snead (St. Louis Rams): February 10, 2012
  12. David Caldwell (Jacksonville Jaguars): January 8, 2013
  13. Steve Keim (Arizona Cardinals): January 8, 2013
  14. Tom Telesco (San Diego Chargers): January 9, 2013
  15. Jason Licht (Tampa Bay Buccaneers): January 21, 2014
  16. Ryan Pace (Chicago Bears): January 8, 2015
  17. Chris Grier (Miami Dolphins): January 4, 2016
  18. Bob Quinn (Detroit Lions): January 8, 2016
  19. Jon Robinson (Tennessee Titans): January 14, 2016
  20. John Lynch (San Francisco 49ers): January 29, 2017
  21. Chris Ballard (Indianapolis Colts): January 30, 2017
  22. Brandon Beane (Buffalo Bills): May 9, 2017
  23. Brett Veach (Kansas City Chiefs): July 11, 2017
  24. Marty Hurney (Carolina Panthers): July 19, 2017
  25. Dave Gettleman (New York Giants): December 28, 2017
  26. Brian Gutekunst (Green Bay Packers): January 7, 2018
  27. Mike Mayock (Oakland Raiders): December 31, 2018
  28. Joe Douglas (New York Jets): June 7, 2019
  29. Eric DeCosta (Baltimore Ravens): January 7, 2019[8]
  30. Ron Rivera (Washington Redskins): January 1, 2020[9]
  31. Andrew Berry (Cleveland Browns): January 27, 2020
  32. Bill O’Brien (Houston Texans): January 28, 2020
 
Look at GB they like comfort. QBs 2 main starting QBs in 30 years, 5 HC's in 30 years, 4 GM's in 30 years.
 
Budman said:
10 years ago this team was being built for the future. Or at leat that's what went around the boards and the news articles.GB, since TT, has always been building for the future. The future has netted 1 SB in 10 years. Not saying go all in or continually build for the future. There has to be some good draft picks, some decent FA's with an eye on that Lombardi. It's a hard balance and hard to do year in and year out.

As far as the GM goes, don't know why I find it interesting, but here was a chart from May 2020 showing the length of tenure of the NFL GM's(somewhat currently). Looks like a bout half have 5 years of experience or less. My roundabout question is this; Do NFL owners want to win in the immediate or do they want to build a long term powerhouse?

www.profootballrumors.com

Longest-Tenured GMs In The NFL

When we ran down the longest-tenured head coaches in the NFL, we found that less than half of the league’s current …
www.profootballrumors.com www.profootballrumors.com

  1. Jerry Jones (Dallas Cowboys): April 18, 1989[1]
  2. Mike Brown (Cincinnati Bengals): August 5, 1991[2]
  3. Bill Belichick (New England Patriots): January 27, 2000[3]
  4. Kevin Colbert (Pittsburgh Steelers): February 18, 2000[4]
  5. Mickey Loomis (New Orleans Saints): May 14, 2002
  6. Rick Spielman (Minnesota Vikings): May 30, 2006[5]
  7. Thomas Dimitroff (Atlanta Falcons): January 13, 2008
  8. John Schneider (Seattle Seahawks): January 19, 2010[6]
  9. Howie Roseman (Philadelphia Eagles): January 29, 2010
  10. John Elway (Denver Broncos): January 5, 2011[7]
  11. Les Snead (St. Louis Rams): February 10, 2012
  12. David Caldwell (Jacksonville Jaguars): January 8, 2013
  13. Steve Keim (Arizona Cardinals): January 8, 2013
  14. Tom Telesco (San Diego Chargers): January 9, 2013
  15. Jason Licht (Tampa Bay Buccaneers): January 21, 2014
  16. Ryan Pace (Chicago Bears): January 8, 2015
  17. Chris Grier (Miami Dolphins): January 4, 2016
  18. Bob Quinn (Detroit Lions): January 8, 2016
  19. Jon Robinson (Tennessee Titans): January 14, 2016
  20. John Lynch (San Francisco 49ers): January 29, 2017
  21. Chris Ballard (Indianapolis Colts): January 30, 2017
  22. Brandon Beane (Buffalo Bills): May 9, 2017
  23. Brett Veach (Kansas City Chiefs): July 11, 2017
  24. Marty Hurney (Carolina Panthers): July 19, 2017
  25. Dave Gettleman (New York Giants): December 28, 2017
  26. Brian Gutekunst (Green Bay Packers): January 7, 2018
  27. Mike Mayock (Oakland Raiders): December 31, 2018
  28. Joe Douglas (New York Jets): June 7, 2019
  29. Eric DeCosta (Baltimore Ravens): January 7, 2019[8]
  30. Ron Rivera (Washington Redskins): January 1, 2020[9]
  31. Andrew Berry (Cleveland Browns): January 27, 2020
  32. Bill O’Brien (Houston Texans): January 28, 2020
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Many don’t care if they win. Financially winning does not matter much
 
I used to give Arod a lot more leeway due to poor drafting for awhile. But if you look at the last game the "MVP" led the team to zero points off of back to back INTs in the biggest game of the season.

You earn your paycheck during the year, you earn your legacy in the post season. And that legacy isn't all that.

Many on this board have pointed it out for awhile now but this team lacks leadership on the field. And that points another finger back at a certain MVP.

It's a good off-season for a lot of soul searching from every player in the roster. Regardless of how much they get paid.
 
Budman said:
That's an interesting take Pack. Expound on it a little more when you can.
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Why win when you are making profits hand over fist. You suck and you still are making money so more you spend on players less you might make in profits.
 
Budman said:
That's an interesting take Pack. Expound on it a little more if you can
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Each team gets $296m from revenue sharing each year. TV $$$, league sponsorships and other league initiatives. So tix don’t matter much, only 3 teams play in front of less than 90% capacity and that’s even misleading since that number includes no shows...I think GB was at 96% but all tix are sold. Now factor in most teams have separate LLC’s for other revenue streams such as local media. Dallas as an example has Blue Star Media that handles local sponsorships, the Frisco facilities as an example. The Cowboys Cheerleaders are a separate entity also. Legends Concessions is part of the Jerrah Jones empire

Atlanta is part of AMB Sports and Entertainment which also includes MLS club and stadium.

bottom line it teams print money
 
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GBP4EVER said:
Why win when you are making profits hand over fist. You suck and you still are making money so more you spend on players less you might make in profits.
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It’s how you manage revenue sharing
 
Packinatl said:
Each team gets $296m from revenue sharing each year. TV $$$, league sponsorships and other league initiatives. So tix don’t matter much, only 3 teams play in front of less than 90% capacity and that’s even misleading since that number includes no shows...I think GB was at 96% but all tix are sold. Now factor in most teams have separate LLC’s for other revenue streams such as local media. Dallas as an example has Blue Star Media that handles local sponsorships, the Frisco facilities as an example. The Cowboys Cheerleaders are a separate entity also. Legends Concessions is part of the Jerrah Jones empire

Atlanta is part of AMB Sports and Entertainment which also includes MLS club and stadium.

bottom line it teams print money
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Thanks Pack! Some good, interesting stuff. Puts things in a bit more perspective.
 
Budman said:
Thanks Pack! Some good, interesting stuff. Puts things in a bit more perspective.
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The only thing that winning helps is satisfying the owner ego and how he can flaunt. Also remember most stadiums are taxpayer funded to some extent and also come with other city and state incentives. Leases usually are very team friendly
 
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