Targets through six games

[FlaPack]

Do not make the mistake of comparing TE targets to WR targets. They're a completely different animal. Targets for TEs are dependent on how they draw coverage, and what percentage of their plays are spent being a primary blocker.

True and valid point. You can also say that number of WR targets are impacted what option they are on the route concept

 

[GBP4EVER]

Do not make the mistake of comparing TE targets to WR targets. They're a completely different animal. Targets for TEs are dependent on how they draw coverage, and what percentage of their plays are spent being a primary blocker.

The TE spot is not what a TE used to be. At this point it's pretty much either a extra OL or a WR.

 

[FlaPack]

The TE spot is not what a TE used to be. At this point it's pretty much either a extra OL or a WR.

Depends if you are playing 11 or 12 personal sets. Not a broad brush like that

 

[TW]

I remember when the TE was more of a blocker. Guys like Dave Casper, Mark Bravaro. They were blockers first, pass catchers second. In fact, they made the All Pro from their blocking skills more than their pass receiving skills.

Nowadays, teams prefer a guy who can stretch the field, like a WR. They're rare. Size and speed that match? Not that common. Then add great hands, and route identification.

Even today, the way Joe Gibbs used the two TE sets to get a second body on guys like Lawrence Taylor are being used. For the Packers, it's used when they believe a lineman is going to be over-matched by a defender on specific plays. We see several plays every game with DeGuera and Tonyan.

In the Packers passing system, if you watch the routes that our TEs run, a large number of them are clearing routes. They appear to be part of the options, but they aren't. Their job is simply to draw coverage away from a specific area. In most cases, to draw underneath coverage off a receiver so the pass to a WR doesn't have to be lofted over a defender, and short of a second defender playing deep.

Anyhow. That's what I see.

 

[Mark87]

I remember when the TE was more of a blocker. Guys like Dave Casper, Mark Bravaro. They were blockers first, pass catchers second. In fact, they made the All Pro from their blocking skills more than their pass receiving skills.

Nowadays, teams prefer a guy who can stretch the field, like a WR. They're rare. Size and speed that match? Not that common. Then add great hands, and route identification.

Even today, the way Joe Gibbs used the two TE sets to get a second body on guys like Lawrence Taylor are being used. For the Packers, it's used when they believe a lineman is going to be over-matched by a defender on specific plays. We see several plays every game with DeGuera and Tonyan.

In the Packers passing system, if you watch the routes that our TEs run, a large number of them are clearing routes. They appear to be part of the options, but they aren't. Their job is simply to draw coverage away from a specific area. In most cases, to draw underneath coverage off a receiver so the pass to a WR doesn't have to be lofted over a defender, and short of a second defender playing deep.

Anyhow. That's what I see.

His offensive base is from the Shanahan playbook.... if he can he'll use TE motion, he'll also use them cleverly to deceive and spread out defenders, on pass plays as much or more than blocking on run. But TE blocking is still a big part of some of his run game.

 

[TW]

His offensive base is from the Shanahan playbook.... if he can he'll use TE motion, he'll also use them cleverly to deceive and spread out defenders, on pass plays as much or more than blocking on run. But TE blocking is still a big part of some of his run game.

If I recall, Shanahan ran a drive route with the TE off the line of scrimmage, and even referred to the player as the eliminator, because it pulled the underneath coverage off his other routes. He's the only guy I ever heard call them that.

 

[GBP4EVER]

GB OL remember is suspect too. Having a good blocking TE is needed.

 

[dannobanano]

I just dont see them spend at that position, never has been a priority

I think it will depend on the marketplace, and potential contract structure

I would agree if this was MM's offense.
But in ML's offense, TE is a much more visible (and key) position.

In TEN, ML wanted to make Delaine Walker the centerpiece of the offense, but (sadly) he wrecked his ankle in the first game and went on IR the whole season.