Rodgers Wants Out

[rpiotr01]

And a bit of a rant here …..the NFL or for that matter pro sports are not the real world. Anyone on this board can choose where they work and live. We even get that choice out of college. Athletes don’t. Hell the draft is technically illegal but that’s a separate issue . And in the NFL for many players your contract is really not over in 3-5 years. You can get tagged and have no freedom of movement. So when a player gets to the end of his career should a team accommodate a player when, where and how they go out ? Do you work with the player and find common ground? I know the convenient narrative will be “well they make a lot of money”. Well they also made other people billions also. It’s how as an organization you want to deal with this from both a business perspective and philosophical. We have seen examples on both sides. At the end of the day it’s a business. We know it, players know it, owners know it.

I don't think it's quite as simple as that. The team is built the way it is, with the salary cap situation they're in, because of Aaron Rodgers. They are tolerating all that pain for the sole purpose of keeping their SB window with him open. Mark pointed out the obvious solution above - work out a deal in which you guarantee he will be traded after the 2021 season, and get his butt back to work. Accommodating a star player is one thing, but some things are a matter of duty. If causing suffering to others weren't so important to him, he would see that and realize he can get everything he wants next year.

 

[GBP4EVER]

I get the employment thing and your point is valid. I was more pointing out that pro athletes, especially NFL have little or no choice when it comes to freedom of movement from day 1.

I’m not at all feeling bad for Rodgers. I guess I just separate that stuff since sports to me is entertainment. He’s not without fault here. At least he’s not playing the “I want input” narrative, he’s being very direct that it’s a people and culture thing. The more I think about it that’s a direct hit on Murphy. Sure he has issues with Gute, we all do but the rest is from the top.

After their rookie contracts most players have the choice were to go. So it's on them if they want to cry about their situation as they chooose to go to that team and sign that long of a contract.

 

[TW]

If we're looking for someone to blame on how much it costs to keep a superstar QB, look at the team themselves, and what they're willing to pay. No sense blaming the players for getting what they can out of each contract because that's the name of the game.

The controversy that comes with each elite QB is a reality, simply because teams make them out as "faces of the franchise," and treat them like they're a living god. Then we expect them to just sit back, while teams start to transition away from them, and act like they're pretty much meaningless to them now?

Then there's little comments made by the players, and the media bends it out of proportion. Before you know it, we have a full blown, "He said - she said," moment. Then the fans come down on it. Some think the QB is being mistreated, others think the guy is an ungrateful SOB who should shut up and continue to enjoy that bloated contract he somehow wheedled out of the team. Of course, a lot of them forget that back when the guy was younger, and a real stud, they said he should get anything he wants, because he's gonna lead them to the promised land.

Funny how things work out. It keeps happening, over and over in the NFL. Nobody learns a darned thing, and the QB salaries keep exploding.

Here's Patrick Mahomes contract. There are those that say it's a good deal. Others say it's a trap. It depends on where he's at in a year or two, or if he's injured. A lot of things can happen over 10 years.

 

[GBP4EVER]

Remember Rodgers was the one who wanted and pushed for a new contract to make him the highest paid player in the NFL. If he felt things were not right before then perhaps he should have not signed the contract ext. But that was never going to happen becuase Rodgers ego would not allow him not to be the highest paid player in the NFL even if for a short period of time.

 

[GBP4EVER]

If we're looking for someone to blame on how much it costs to keep a superstar QB, look at the team themselves, and what they're willing to pay. No sense blaming the players for getting what they can out of each contract because that's the name of the game.

The controversy that comes with each elite QB is a reality, simply because teams make them out as "faces of the franchise," and treat them like they're a living god. Then we expect them to just sit back, while teams start to transition away from them, and act like they're pretty much meaningless to them now?

Then there's little comments made by the players, and the media bends it out of proportion. Before you know it, we have a full blown, "He said - she said," moment. Then the fans come down on it. Some think the QB is being mistreated, others think the guy is an ungrateful SOB who should shut up and continue to enjoy that bloated contract he somehow wheedled out of the team. Of course, a lot of them forget that back when the guy was younger, and a real stud, they said he should get anything he wants, because he's gonna lead them to the promised land.

Funny how things work out. It keeps happening, over and over in the NFL. Nobody learns a darned thing, and the QB salaries keep exploding.

Here's Patrick Mahomes contract. There are those that say it's a good deal. Others say it's a trap. It depends on where he's at in a year or two, or if he's injured. A lot of things can happen over 10 years.

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Thing is that because of lack of a good QB these teams are bent over and at the whim of the QB. Look at Dak. Is he probably worth what he got? No but Dallas had little to no choice to pay him.

 

[FlaPack]

I don't think it's quite as simple as that. The team is built the way it is, with the salary cap situation they're in, because of Aaron Rodgers. They are tolerating all that pain for the sole purpose of keeping their SB window with him open. Mark pointed out the obvious solution above - work out a deal in which you guarantee he will be traded after the 2021 season, and get his butt back to work. Accommodating a star player is one thing, but some things are a matter of duty. If causing suffering to others weren't so important to him, he would see that and realize he can get everything he wants next year.

Unfortunately next year for him the way he wants it is not guaranteed, injury could put a end to that real quick. The last thing I want to see is a lame duck QB who is more distraction than it’s worth. His value is never greater than it is now and from a business perspective you sell when your asset is its highest. The only “win” for the organization is if he comes back and this team wins a Lombardi.

 

[GBP4EVER]

I don't think it's quite as simple as that. The team is built the way it is, with the salary cap situation they're in, because of Aaron Rodgers. They are tolerating all that pain for the sole purpose of keeping their SB window with him open. Mark pointed out the obvious solution above - work out a deal in which you guarantee he will be traded after the 2021 season, and get his butt back to work. Accommodating a star player is one thing, but some things are a matter of duty. If causing suffering to others weren't so important to him, he would see that and realize he can get everything he wants next year.

I agree with this but I think both sides are pig headed and neither side will give. I said before I can see were GB calls Rodgers bluff on not playing and Rodgers comes back is disgruntled and that hangs over the teams head all season long with the media talking about it.

 

[GBP4EVER]

Unfortunately next year for him the way he wants it is not guaranteed, injury could put a end to that real quick. The last thing I want to see is a lame duck QB who is more distraction than it’s worth. His value is never greater than it is now and from a business perspective you sell when your asset is its highest. The only “win” for the organization is if he comes back and this team wins a Lombardi.

Even then you win the championship you are right back in the same boat do you commit to him because you just had a QB win you a title and he may want out again.

 

[FlaPack]

Remember Rodgers was the one who wanted and pushed for a new contract to make him the highest paid player in the NFL. If he felt things were not right before then perhaps he should have not signed the contract ext. But that was never going to happen becuase Rodgers ego would not allow him not to be the highest paid player in the NFL even if for a short period of time.

Per who? Some report? His extension was 2 years ago, and If he does not get one he’s a UFA & gets tagged.

 

[FlaPack]

After their rookie contracts most players have the choice were to go. So it's on them if they want to cry about their situation as they chooose to go to that team and sign that long of a contract.

That’s not true. You can still get tagged if unless you have no value to the team