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By BOB McGINN
Here is my annual analysis of the Green Bay Packers’ 53-man roster plus RB Aaron Jones, who was suspended by the NFL for the first two games. The rankings were decided on the basis of each player’s value to the team before the first regular-season game. Sometimes a player was downgraded because he plays a position with so much depth that his absence wouldn’t be significant. Others were upgraded because of the importance of their positions as well as the shortage of depth behind them.
1. AARON RODGERS, QB
Ranked as the NFL’s second-best player regardless of position
behind Tom Brady. He has been No. 1 in this exercise for 11 straight years. Played one series (seven snaps) in one exhibition game a year after playing 26 snaps in two games. A major difference between him and Brady is the 41-year-old had 44 passing attempts this summer, the fourth-highest total among starting quarterbacks. Since Mike McCarthy cut way back on Rodgers’ exhibition exposure his passer ratings in the first two regular-season games were 95.1 and 70.7 in 2016 and 86.5 and 90.7 last year. The Packers started 1-1 in each season. Working against a new defense coordinated by Mike Pettine probably was beneficial. Still, there were at least two practices in which Rodgers was way off the mark and struggled even to complete a pass downfield. With contract extension in hand, he should be highly motivated.
2. DAVANTE ADAMS, WR
Adams struck it rich late last season with a four-year, $58 million extension ($18M guaranteed). He’s ranked 19th among wideouts by PFW but his value is much greater than that in Green Bay because the position is so thin. The topsy-turvy arc of his career is reflected by his rankings here: No. 35 in 2014, No. 11 in ’15, No. 30 in ’16, No. 9 last year and now the rarefied air of No. 2. Hard to jam and reroute, competitive at the ball and makes acrobatic catches. Had injury-free summer. An emerging leader, too.
3. DAVID BAKHTIARI, T
Shook off an ankle injury suffered at the Lambeau Field practice to play 17 snaps in Game 2 before taking Games 3-4 off. PFW’s fourth-rated tackle. Athletic, tough and determined. Never really needs help in pass protection. He looked like a shrimp five years ago compared to the big, powerful person of today.
4. CLAY MATTHEWS, OLB
Begins 10th season knowing his contract expires in January. Still a good player but his big-play and pressure numbers have been on the decline since 2014. Both his father, Clay, and his uncle, Bruce, played 19 seasons, but Matthews has dropped hints that he has little interest playing anywhere near that long even if his body were to cooperate. With depth in short supply he’ll be asked to play far more than his 51.4% in 2016 and 62.4% in ’17. PFW didn’t list him among their 20 edge rushers. He was 19thentering 2017 and fifth at outside linebacker in July 2016.
5. MIKE DANIELS, DT
Didn’t play a down in the exhibition season because of a thigh injury but could have played in Games 3-4. Looked trimmer this summer, and that probably was a good thing. Bulked up about 10 pounds to 312 before the 2015 season. That was fine then, but at age 29 he can’t afford to lose quickness. Coming off a somewhat disappointing season as a pass rusher in which he settled for 19 ½ pressures, his lowest total since his rookie year. In-your-face, emotional presence every Sunday.
6. JIMMY GRAHAM, TE
Tied with Delanie Walker behind Rob Gronkowski, Travis Kelce, Zach Ertz and Greg Olsen on PFW’s list of the top tight ends. Rodgers has been looking for Graham in practice ever since the start of off-season work. On Graham’s only reception of his 11-play exhibition season, Rodgers threw the ball a little high but the tight end went up and got it without a problem. It’s a long season and it is Graham’s ninth year, but his speed certainly looked good in August.
7. BRYAN BULAGA, T
When Bulaga did play in 2017, and ankle and ACL injuries limited him to 22.2% playing time, he was so-so. The Packers need him to be better this season, his ninth, but more than that they just need him on the field. Almost since the Packers signed Bulaga to a five-year, $33.75 million extension in March 2015 they have just tried to get their money’s worth. Injuries have been his constant companion. His contract contains a $5.85 million base salary this season before closing at $5.8M in 2019.
8. KENNY CLARK, NT
The NFC North includes a host of outstanding 300-pounders, including Linval Joseph and Sheldon Richardson in Minnesota, Akiem Hicks and Eddie Goldman in Chicago and teammate Mike Daniels. Clark, however, is coming off an exceptional summer and could leap to the head of the class at some point. He might have been the most impressive player in camp. He put on a clinic against the Raiders’ stout trio of interior offensive linemen, controlling blockers before shedding them to make the tackle.
9. NICK PERRY, OLB
Ankle surgery sidelined Perry for the entire off-season and about the first month of camp. He should be ready to go Sunday night, but with him one never knows. He has never played 16 games, and his missed-game total is 26. In the past, Perry has been worth two or three solid power rushes in most games. The rush-thin defense could use four or five from Perry, but after so many letdowns the defensive staff will take what it can get.
10. BLAKE MARTINEZ, ILB
Martinez is another player the Packers can ill afford to lose. That’s not because he’s a top player. Rather, it’s because no one else appears capable of directing the defense and playing every down. In his third season, he needs to make dramatic improvement in coverage and reduce his team-high total of 22 missed tackles, which was the most in Green Bay since LB Nate Wayne missed 24 in 2000. Too often Martinez was a safe haven for quarterbacks looking for an easy completion. You’ve got to love his gung-ho attitude. Almost every day in August, he was the first of 90 players through the Nitschke Field gates before practice.
11. COREY LINSLEY, C
Played sparingly (29 snaps) in the exhibitions and was given some time off in drills. Signed a three-year extension ($25.5 million, including $8M guaranteed) in late December. Only player on the team to play every snap from scrimmage in 2017. Smart, strong and conscientious. Fully in tune with the run-pass game and the hurry-up, catch-‘em-napping hijinks of Rodgers. Will get outmanned at times, the main reason his total of “bad” runs swelled from 8 ½ in 2016 to a career-high 15 in ’17.
12. AARON JONES, RB
Silenced by a pulled hamstring for the first two exhibitions, Jones carried nine times for 34 yards in the Kansas City finale and looked good doing it. The Packers haven’t had a legitimate threat in the backfield since Eddie Lacy’s first two seasons (2013-’14). With his burst into the hole and speed to the corner Jones has provided glimpses of being the guy. First, there’s the two-game suspension to serve. Second, he can’t allow 50% (six of 12) of the pressures yielded by running backs, as he did a year ago.
13. LANE TAYLOR
The staff took it easy on Taylor in camp, letting him nurse some nagging injuries before finally giving him the green light to play 13 snaps in Kansas City. He enters his third season as a starter after three seasons learning from Josh Sitton. His improvement began in 2015, and has continued steadily since. Old pros T.J. Lang, Jahri Evans and Sitton are long gone so it’s Taylor’s time to lead the position.
14. KEVIN KING, CB
Any of the five cornerbacks could turn out to be the best cover man. Let’s make King the nominal leader in the clubhouse as he begins his second season. GM Ted Thompson drafted King atop the second round in 2017 despite a chronic left shoulder injury that led to 36.2% painful playing time and labrum surgery Dec. 12. Sat out the first three games and some practice time this summer with a right shoulder problem. At 6 feet 3, he looks fabulous on the hoof. We’ll soon see if he can hold up.
15. HA HA CLINTON-DIX, S
Never stood out in August after completely falling apart in his fourth season. After getting in two good licks in a 10-play stint against Tennessee, he turned around and was awful in 17 snaps against Pittsburgh. With Morgan Burnett now a Steeler, it should be Clinton-Dix’s secondary to run. Yet, in moves tied to leadership among the defensive backs as much as anything, the Packers felt compelled to bring back aging cornerbacks Tramon Williams and Davon House. He’ll get one more season to prove himself worthy of another contract.
16. JAMAAL WILLIAMS, RB
Here’s another player whose development in camp was stunted by injury (ankle). His last snap came on Aug. 16. There were signs, however, that Williams has improved his blitz pickup. He jarred some rushers, both in games and practice. He also dropped few, if any, passes, after a rookie season in which his drop rate of 15.6% (five of 32) was second on the team behind Martellus Bennett (16.7%). In the last eight games he averaged 17.8 carries and 65.3 yards. The Packers would gladly take that again.
17. JOSH JACKSON, CB
Everybody liked the second-round draft choice from Iowa. “He is a very, very smart and instinctive player,” one personnel man said. “Excellent zone player. Every time you put on a film he makes a big play. There’s something there. I need to see him go down the field.” He also tackled well and demonstrated his glue-like hands. It will be extremely competitive for playing time at cornerback. He has to play extensively.
18. RANDALL COBB, WR
Underwent arthroscopic ankle surgery in early June and took it easy for much of camp and the exhibition season (seven snaps). In one-on-one’s at practice, there were occasional signs of his former quickness from the slot. It’s certainly not as dynamic as it once was, either off the line or after the catch. Making a lot of money ($8.6 million base salary) in what likely will be his final season in Green Bay. With Jake Kumerow on injured reserve, there’s no young player that has ascended to threaten his playing time in three-wide sets.
19. MUHAMMAD WILKERSON, DT
The best that can be said for the former Jet is he made it through the six weeks with minimal injury. In his 46 snaps there wasn’t a hint of pass rush from a 28-year-old player who had 12 sacks three years ago. With his strength and exceptional size he was able to control some blockers. When he made tackles, it was less disengaging at the point of attack and more falling into or engulfing ball carriers. The Packers can only hope Wilkerson is more motivated come the regular season.
20. REGGIE GILBERT, OLB
Gilbert, an undrafted rookie in 2016, made such an impression that the coaches gave him the night off in Kansas City. There was no doubt he was the club’s best pass rusher in practice and the first three games. His next and biggest step will be finding methods to beat front-line tackles. He isn’t fast or strong. He does get off the ball in timely fashion, is able to bend beneath blockers and plays smart.
21. OREN BURKS, ILB
Burks, according to one scout, “ran around like a dog chasing cars” in his 41-play debut against Tennessee. In 28 plays the next week against Pittsburgh, he was more disciplined in his reads and turned in a solid performance. He has been out since Aug. 24 after suffering a shoulder injury in pre-game warmups. “Movement skills and explosiveness kind of trump the bulk size … that’s kind of the new-era linebacker,” defensive coordinator Mike Pettine said last month. “You’re looking for guys that are hybrid safeties. The league has really changed.” Burks started at free safety for Vanderbilt in 2015.
22. JAIRE ALEXANDER, CB
Played 61 snaps in three games and held up OK. He blew up a screen in Kansas City. He made a terrific interception in Oakland. He also appeared to misread Amari Cooper’s speed and then got beat at the ball for a 49-yard completion. He exercised questionable judgment on several punt returns. Whatever Alexander was asked to do all summer, he did it with bravado. He’s most assuredly no shrinking violet.
23. GERONIMO ALLISON, WR
Towering possession receiver knows how to use his body (sometimes by pushing off) against press coverage and in the inside game. Can make big-time grabs and has some giddy-up after the catch. His game seemed more reliable in Year 3 than in the past.
24. MASON CROSBY, K
Still money in the bank at 34. Nothing seems to faze the man. This summer, it was a new holder and rotating long snappers. Crosby was six for six on field goals (long of 53) and made all 13 extra points. He experimented with various types of kickoffs, too, averaging 64.4 yards and 3.98 seconds of hang time. His 17-boot averages last summer were 65.3 and 3.84. “Boy, he has a strong leg,” one scout said. “He’s quick to the ball and gets it up well. His kickoffs are different all the time. He’s one of the best kickers I’ve seen.”
25. MARCEDES LEWIS, TE
Some of the best work Lewis did was one day this spring when Rodgers worked individually with him inside the 10. He and Graham each measured 6-6 ½ at their respective combines, but with his 10-pound weight advantage Lewis is the more imposing figure of the two. Graham played basketball for four seasons at Miami but Lewis was good enough to have played college hoops, too. Graham edged Lewis in the vertical jump (38 ½ inches to 37) and the broad jump (10-0 to 9-10) whereas Lewis beat him on the bench press (23 reps to 15). Graham had the better Wonderlic score, 23-18. As his 13th season approaches, we’ll see how his legs are by mid-season.
26. JUSTIN McCRAY, G
When draft pick Cole Madison didn’t show up for training camp, the right-guard position fell to McCray almost by default. Considering he was cut twice by the Titans and endured a stint in indoor football, it’s a sizeable leap to think he can perform at a solid starter’s level. Last year, injuries forced him to play 594 snaps, but only one was at right guard. McCray’s smart and will battle all day long. He’s also a poor athlete whom one personnel man said deserved to be released after his performance against Pittsburgh.
27. TRAMON WILLIAMS, CB
Back in 2007, when Williams barely beat out Patrick Dendy for the last berth at cornerback, he was Mr. Irrelevant (No. 53) on this list. He leaped to 23rd in 2008, 15th in ’09, seventh in ’10, fifth in ’11 and ’12, 10th in ’13 and 13th in ’14 before circumstances took him to Cleveland and Arizona. It has been a memorable journey for the one-time free agent from Louisiana Tech. In limited exposure, it appears as if he still might be effective.
28. JASON SPRIGGS, T
After two seasons of getting beat inside and falling off blocks there was some uptick in Spriggs’ game. Having added a bunch of weight, he’s no longer thin. The extra poundage robbed him of some movement but he wasn’t getting shoved around as much, either. He’s still soft and a catcher, but not to the extent that he was in his first two seasons. For better or worse, he’s it as the swing tackle.
29. KENTRELL BRICE, S
Physically, he has just about everything it takes to be an impact safety. When moving in a straight-line from point A to point B, he gets there in a hurry. His 4.43 speed is evident pressuring the passer, closing on the ball carrier or getting to the boundary in a two-safety shell. Something’s missing in Brice’s game, though. He still reads and reacts like a small-school player (Louisiana Tech). Regardless, he gets first shot at filling Morgan Burnett’s old berth.
30. DEAN LOWRY, DE
If truth be told, Lowry gave the Packers everything that Wilkerson did this summer but with a lot more hustle. He’s a line-of-scrimmage player with the strength to absorb double teams. Lowry is versatile, smart and, on occasion, capable of getting on a blocker’s edge and making a play in the backfield.
31. TY MONTGOMERY, RB
No one in his right mind could expect him to stay on the field for a full season. At 220 pounds and with a rocked-up physique, Montgomery looks every bit the part. But he couldn’t stay healthy as a wide receiver-gadget player at Stanford and he certainly couldn’t last year as a running back. Even this summer, he was slowed by a foot injury. He does have superb hands but his ability to contribute as a third-down back hinges on blitz pickup. He looked awful trying to block Pittsburgh’s Bud Dupree in Game 2.
32. JOSH JONES, S
The Packers asked less of Jones this summer, hopeful that streamlining his responsibilities would enable his physical traits to shine. It wasn’t a good sign for Jones’ future that he failed to take command at safety in a competition with former free agent Kentrell Brice. Jones can run fast in a straight line (4.40) but doesn’t change direction well. He isn’t natural in space. When he does play, it remains to be seen if he’ll blow fewer assignments in Mike Pettine’s defense than he did in Dom Capers’ defense.
33. DAVON HOUSE, CB
The coaches kept House on ice for much of the summer. They didn’t push him in practice, and in three games he played just 36 snaps. Three different injuries ruined his first season back with the Packers. He enters this season healthy, which wasn’t the case a year ago. With youth coming to the forefront at cornerback, it’s unclear just how much House will be needed. He’s a big press corner and an excellent team guy.
34. LUCAS PATRICK, C-G
Patrick will start out backing up at center and guard, but if Justin McCray falters at RG look for him to get the call. The pugnacious Patrick is a tough guy with limitations in balance, quickness and strength. Of the 10 offensive linemen that played more than 30 snaps in August, he and McCray were the only two that worked to finish blocks. Patrick wades around looking for people to hit.
35. KYLER FACKRELL, OLB
Extremely durable, played 111 snaps and didn’t miss any practice time due to injury. Nevertheless, he just treaded water as his third season begins. He does have quickness off the ball, chases hard and plays smarter all the time. He also doesn’t set the edge consistently, struggles taking zone drops and has made little impact on special teams. Got a late start to his pro career and will be 27 in November. Pass rush will be at a premium, and if Fackrell can’t rev up his game his career will be over.
36. LANCE KENDRICKS, TE
Kendricks caught the ball very well all summer other than his drop in Oakland that would have been a 17-yard touchdown with a better adjustment. His hands were inconsistent (four drops, 29 targets) last season; in August, he was much more dependable, running through the ball and snatching it in his hands. Kendricks isn’t a big person, and it shows in goal-line and short-yardage situations. A one-time starter in St. Louis, he’ll need good fortune to approach his 44.6% playing time of a year ago.
37. TREVOR DAVIS, WR
Pulled a hamstring early and didn’t do much of anything until getting extensive return duty in the exhibition finale. The Packers did what they could to trade Davis in the days before and after the final cut but found no takers. Davis easily ranks as the top kickoff and punt returner on the roster, and can help as a gunner, too. He just offers next to nothing as a receiver other than unrefined speed.
38. JK SCOTT, P
The rookie from Alabama looked like a natural holding for Mason Crosby. As a punter, his gross average of 45.2 tied for 22nd and his net of 42.7 ranked ninth. His average hang time of 4.70 seconds far surpassed Justin Vogel’s average of 4.38 in the 2017 exhibition season. He also kicked off seven times, averaging 66.7 yards and 3.86 hang time. Scott has fantastic leg extension as a punter but needs to be more consistent with his placement and not so deliberate getting the ball off.
39. DeSHONE KIZER, QB
For the Browns in 2017, Kizer completed 51% of his 49 passes in exhibition games and 53.6% of 476 in the regular season. For the Packers, he hit 53.3% of his 60 passes. Obviously, Kizer has an accuracy problem, and it’s one reason coach Hue Jackson and GM John Dorsey didn’t even want him in camp for a second season. Everyone can see Kizer’s physical gifts: the high, quick release, the mobility and the big arm. At age 22, his game is just so erratic and, according to some scouts, he’s a hard guy to be around. Steady, improved Brett Hundley, 25, was a better bet to win games in 2018 but GM Brian Gutekunst took the sixth-round pick from Seattle and plunged forward with Kizer.
40. MONTRAVIUS ADAMS, DT
After a lost rookie season, Adams put injuries behind him and led the D-line in snaps with 124. He showed a measure of strength. When fresh, he held his own at the point of attack. His pass rush, however, was disappointing. He played with more quickness and activity at Auburn than this summer. When his initial rush was halted, much of the time he just stood at the line and thrashed without making any headway. It’s hard to say why he wasn’t more productive, especially against backups. Is he lazy? Are assignments slowing him down? Remember, it takes a special breed to rush effectively from the inside.
41. JERMAINE WHITEHEAD, S
Versatility helped him beat out Marwin Evans, another veteran safety. When injuries thinned the secondary in 2017 he actually served as the dime back in the last five games. He has a safety background but with just five cornerbacks on the roster the Packers won’t be shy having him cover from the slot. Gave up too many completions in exhibition games. Can be a difficult player to coach dating to his career at Auburn (2011-’14).
42. KOREY TOOMER, ILB
Cut by the 49ers Saturday, Toomer was signed 48 hours later to back up inside. He’s a phenomenal testing athlete with a 4.53 40 from six years ago. He can run and close on the football but has had a hard time processing what the offense is doing. A physical tackler, he contributes on special teams. Green Bay is his sixth team.
43. ANTONIO MORRISON, ILB
Morrison is an old-fashioned middle linebacker who started 15 games last season for the Colts and played 75.4% of the snaps. Played at Bolingbrook (Ill.) High School and Florida. He was a fourth-round pick in 2016 despite being the slowest LB (5.12) in the draft. “He’s rough around the edges,” one scout said before that draft. “Kind of in your face. He calls out any teammate that’s goofing off … Tough as nails. He’ll show up at your football facility at 6 before the janitor gets there and will still be watching tape at 11 at night.”
44. BYRON BELL, G-T
Arrived May 30 on a one-year contract worth $1.6 million ($500,000 guaranteed). Started at four positions for Carolina and Tennessee from 2011-’15. Suffered a season-ending ankle injury with the Titans in ’16 and then had to start two of 12 games in Dallas for injured LT Tyron Smith in ’17. Packers opted to keep his experience over Adam Pankey, another multi-position player. In March 2011, he measured 6-5 ½ and 339, with 34 1/2-inch arms and 10 1/8-inch hands. He managed just 20 reps on the bench press and posted 9 on the Wonderlic. His vertical jump was 30 ½ inches. His 74 regular-season starts include 48 at RT, 18 at LT, seven at LG and one at RG.
45. ROBERT TONYAN, TE
Tonyan separated himself from an excellent seven-man corps of tight ends with eight catches for 61 yards. In August 2017, the rookie free agent from Indiana State had two receptions for 21 in the Lions’ camp and was waived at the end of August. This summer, Tonyan (6-5, 250) caught the ball beautifully and demonstrated surprising toughness as a blocker. His athletic ability was reflected by a 35-inch vertical jump, a 10-5 broad jump and a 4.58 40 when he weighed just 231 in March 2017. His Wonderlic was 21.
46. J’MON MOORE, WR
August proved to be a rude awakening for Moore. Two years after posting a double-digit drop total at Missouri, it could be said he had the worst hands in camp. Most of Moore’s exposure in games came on take-off routes in which he’d reach back and try to make difficult catches. He didn’t adjust well at the ball, either. Moore has been humbled. How he responds will determine if he becomes a player.
47. MARQUEZ VALDEZ-SCANTLING, WR
Looked like a developmental player in August. Elongated deep threat with 4.38 speed but, strangely, merely a 30 ½ vertical jump. Showed some toughness working inside against Tennessee but none at all dancing on several of his eight kickoff returns. Appears to have limited value covering kicks.
48. HUNTER BRADLEY, LS
The Packers passed on a fairly sure thing, which would have been re-signing Brett Goode despite some slippage in his velocity on punt snaps. Free agent Zach Triner appeared to place the laces more precisely on placements than Bradley but the Packers went with the draft choice. Bradley was three years younger, too.
49. JAMES CRAWFORD, ILB
He ranked as the biggest surprise this year and perhaps in many other years. In five years at Illinois, he started just 16 of 36 games and didn’t have a sack until 2017, when he had four. Pulled a hamstring running his first 40 at pro day in March, never ran again and teams stuck him deep on their back boards. When injuries struck at inside linebacker early in camp the Packers got out their emergency list and out popped Crawford (6-2, 239), who figured to be a no-chance camp body after signing Aug. 8. Played just 40 snaps from scrimmage in the last three games but won a job covering kicks. “His ability to play on special teams at the level he played in Kansas City really shows you the caliber of player he is,” coach Mike McCarthy said. Ron Zook, the special teams coach, previously was head coach at Illinois and Florida; Crawford hails from Deerfield, Fla.
50. RAVEN GREENE, S
Greene would be Exhibit A for the value of playing four exhibition games. Until the last two weeks, he appeared to be behind veteran Marwin Evans. Then he forced a fumble in Oakland and delivered a number of strong, low tackles on defense and special teams in Kansas City. With that, this rookie free agent from FCS James Madison had earned a roster spot. He’s smart (Wonderlic of 24), fundamentally sound and disciplined.
51. TIM BOYLE, QB
Unlike Taysom Hill, the No. 3 quarterback the Packers let get away last summer, Boyle is a pocket thrower. In 107 snaps, 45 more than Hill had in August 2017, Boyle ran just four times for 2 yards. Boyle, however, might be a better pure passer than Hill, both from velocity and mechanical standpoints. At 6-3 ½ and 232, he’s able to stand tall in the pocket and deliver the ball despite jostling from the rush. He’s not a statue, either, with a 40 time of 4.78. It’s remarkable that a player with a passer rating of 42.6 in three seasons at Connecticut (he played as a senior at Eastern Kentucky) could show this well in Green Bay. Unlike slow, small Joe Callahan, Boyle gives Mike McCarthy some tools to coach.
52. DARIUS JACKSON, RB
At 220 pounds Jackson ran 4.39 in March 2016. He’s listed now at 228, but even if his speed would be 4.45 now he’s still a big man with big speed. He’s also smart (Wonderlic of 32), which gives him a leg up on the multitude of protections he’ll have to know in order to get on the field.
53. ALEX LIGHT, T
He isn’t ready to play by a long shot. Not many rookie free agents from FCS Richmond are. Once Light settled in he held his own as a left tackle, particularly in Oakland. Recognizing left tackles are hard to come by, the Packers decided to keep him over Adam Pankey and Kyle Murphy. Light can’t run a lick (5.55) but was fairly light on his feet and used his enormous hands (11 ¼ inches) well in pass protection.
54. EQUANIMEOUS ST. BROWN, WR
St. Brown led the receivers in snaps (148) but produced just six catches for 83 yards. His hands weren’t reliable. He’s huge and can run, but doesn’t play to his 4.47 clocking. He was slow off the ball trying to separate from press coverage. At this point, he’s a possession type receiver with loads of unfulfilled potential.
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Here is my annual analysis of the Green Bay Packers’ 53-man roster plus RB Aaron Jones, who was suspended by the NFL for the first two games. The rankings were decided on the basis of each player’s value to the team before the first regular-season game. Sometimes a player was downgraded because he plays a position with so much depth that his absence wouldn’t be significant. Others were upgraded because of the importance of their positions as well as the shortage of depth behind them.
1. AARON RODGERS, QB
Ranked as the NFL’s second-best player regardless of position
behind Tom Brady. He has been No. 1 in this exercise for 11 straight years. Played one series (seven snaps) in one exhibition game a year after playing 26 snaps in two games. A major difference between him and Brady is the 41-year-old had 44 passing attempts this summer, the fourth-highest total among starting quarterbacks. Since Mike McCarthy cut way back on Rodgers’ exhibition exposure his passer ratings in the first two regular-season games were 95.1 and 70.7 in 2016 and 86.5 and 90.7 last year. The Packers started 1-1 in each season. Working against a new defense coordinated by Mike Pettine probably was beneficial. Still, there were at least two practices in which Rodgers was way off the mark and struggled even to complete a pass downfield. With contract extension in hand, he should be highly motivated.
2. DAVANTE ADAMS, WR
Adams struck it rich late last season with a four-year, $58 million extension ($18M guaranteed). He’s ranked 19th among wideouts by PFW but his value is much greater than that in Green Bay because the position is so thin. The topsy-turvy arc of his career is reflected by his rankings here: No. 35 in 2014, No. 11 in ’15, No. 30 in ’16, No. 9 last year and now the rarefied air of No. 2. Hard to jam and reroute, competitive at the ball and makes acrobatic catches. Had injury-free summer. An emerging leader, too.
3. DAVID BAKHTIARI, T
Shook off an ankle injury suffered at the Lambeau Field practice to play 17 snaps in Game 2 before taking Games 3-4 off. PFW’s fourth-rated tackle. Athletic, tough and determined. Never really needs help in pass protection. He looked like a shrimp five years ago compared to the big, powerful person of today.
4. CLAY MATTHEWS, OLB
Begins 10th season knowing his contract expires in January. Still a good player but his big-play and pressure numbers have been on the decline since 2014. Both his father, Clay, and his uncle, Bruce, played 19 seasons, but Matthews has dropped hints that he has little interest playing anywhere near that long even if his body were to cooperate. With depth in short supply he’ll be asked to play far more than his 51.4% in 2016 and 62.4% in ’17. PFW didn’t list him among their 20 edge rushers. He was 19thentering 2017 and fifth at outside linebacker in July 2016.
5. MIKE DANIELS, DT
Didn’t play a down in the exhibition season because of a thigh injury but could have played in Games 3-4. Looked trimmer this summer, and that probably was a good thing. Bulked up about 10 pounds to 312 before the 2015 season. That was fine then, but at age 29 he can’t afford to lose quickness. Coming off a somewhat disappointing season as a pass rusher in which he settled for 19 ½ pressures, his lowest total since his rookie year. In-your-face, emotional presence every Sunday.
6. JIMMY GRAHAM, TE
Tied with Delanie Walker behind Rob Gronkowski, Travis Kelce, Zach Ertz and Greg Olsen on PFW’s list of the top tight ends. Rodgers has been looking for Graham in practice ever since the start of off-season work. On Graham’s only reception of his 11-play exhibition season, Rodgers threw the ball a little high but the tight end went up and got it without a problem. It’s a long season and it is Graham’s ninth year, but his speed certainly looked good in August.
7. BRYAN BULAGA, T
When Bulaga did play in 2017, and ankle and ACL injuries limited him to 22.2% playing time, he was so-so. The Packers need him to be better this season, his ninth, but more than that they just need him on the field. Almost since the Packers signed Bulaga to a five-year, $33.75 million extension in March 2015 they have just tried to get their money’s worth. Injuries have been his constant companion. His contract contains a $5.85 million base salary this season before closing at $5.8M in 2019.
8. KENNY CLARK, NT
The NFC North includes a host of outstanding 300-pounders, including Linval Joseph and Sheldon Richardson in Minnesota, Akiem Hicks and Eddie Goldman in Chicago and teammate Mike Daniels. Clark, however, is coming off an exceptional summer and could leap to the head of the class at some point. He might have been the most impressive player in camp. He put on a clinic against the Raiders’ stout trio of interior offensive linemen, controlling blockers before shedding them to make the tackle.
9. NICK PERRY, OLB
Ankle surgery sidelined Perry for the entire off-season and about the first month of camp. He should be ready to go Sunday night, but with him one never knows. He has never played 16 games, and his missed-game total is 26. In the past, Perry has been worth two or three solid power rushes in most games. The rush-thin defense could use four or five from Perry, but after so many letdowns the defensive staff will take what it can get.
10. BLAKE MARTINEZ, ILB
Martinez is another player the Packers can ill afford to lose. That’s not because he’s a top player. Rather, it’s because no one else appears capable of directing the defense and playing every down. In his third season, he needs to make dramatic improvement in coverage and reduce his team-high total of 22 missed tackles, which was the most in Green Bay since LB Nate Wayne missed 24 in 2000. Too often Martinez was a safe haven for quarterbacks looking for an easy completion. You’ve got to love his gung-ho attitude. Almost every day in August, he was the first of 90 players through the Nitschke Field gates before practice.
11. COREY LINSLEY, C
Played sparingly (29 snaps) in the exhibitions and was given some time off in drills. Signed a three-year extension ($25.5 million, including $8M guaranteed) in late December. Only player on the team to play every snap from scrimmage in 2017. Smart, strong and conscientious. Fully in tune with the run-pass game and the hurry-up, catch-‘em-napping hijinks of Rodgers. Will get outmanned at times, the main reason his total of “bad” runs swelled from 8 ½ in 2016 to a career-high 15 in ’17.
12. AARON JONES, RB
Silenced by a pulled hamstring for the first two exhibitions, Jones carried nine times for 34 yards in the Kansas City finale and looked good doing it. The Packers haven’t had a legitimate threat in the backfield since Eddie Lacy’s first two seasons (2013-’14). With his burst into the hole and speed to the corner Jones has provided glimpses of being the guy. First, there’s the two-game suspension to serve. Second, he can’t allow 50% (six of 12) of the pressures yielded by running backs, as he did a year ago.
13. LANE TAYLOR
The staff took it easy on Taylor in camp, letting him nurse some nagging injuries before finally giving him the green light to play 13 snaps in Kansas City. He enters his third season as a starter after three seasons learning from Josh Sitton. His improvement began in 2015, and has continued steadily since. Old pros T.J. Lang, Jahri Evans and Sitton are long gone so it’s Taylor’s time to lead the position.
14. KEVIN KING, CB
Any of the five cornerbacks could turn out to be the best cover man. Let’s make King the nominal leader in the clubhouse as he begins his second season. GM Ted Thompson drafted King atop the second round in 2017 despite a chronic left shoulder injury that led to 36.2% painful playing time and labrum surgery Dec. 12. Sat out the first three games and some practice time this summer with a right shoulder problem. At 6 feet 3, he looks fabulous on the hoof. We’ll soon see if he can hold up.
15. HA HA CLINTON-DIX, S
Never stood out in August after completely falling apart in his fourth season. After getting in two good licks in a 10-play stint against Tennessee, he turned around and was awful in 17 snaps against Pittsburgh. With Morgan Burnett now a Steeler, it should be Clinton-Dix’s secondary to run. Yet, in moves tied to leadership among the defensive backs as much as anything, the Packers felt compelled to bring back aging cornerbacks Tramon Williams and Davon House. He’ll get one more season to prove himself worthy of another contract.
16. JAMAAL WILLIAMS, RB
Here’s another player whose development in camp was stunted by injury (ankle). His last snap came on Aug. 16. There were signs, however, that Williams has improved his blitz pickup. He jarred some rushers, both in games and practice. He also dropped few, if any, passes, after a rookie season in which his drop rate of 15.6% (five of 32) was second on the team behind Martellus Bennett (16.7%). In the last eight games he averaged 17.8 carries and 65.3 yards. The Packers would gladly take that again.
17. JOSH JACKSON, CB
Everybody liked the second-round draft choice from Iowa. “He is a very, very smart and instinctive player,” one personnel man said. “Excellent zone player. Every time you put on a film he makes a big play. There’s something there. I need to see him go down the field.” He also tackled well and demonstrated his glue-like hands. It will be extremely competitive for playing time at cornerback. He has to play extensively.
18. RANDALL COBB, WR
Underwent arthroscopic ankle surgery in early June and took it easy for much of camp and the exhibition season (seven snaps). In one-on-one’s at practice, there were occasional signs of his former quickness from the slot. It’s certainly not as dynamic as it once was, either off the line or after the catch. Making a lot of money ($8.6 million base salary) in what likely will be his final season in Green Bay. With Jake Kumerow on injured reserve, there’s no young player that has ascended to threaten his playing time in three-wide sets.
19. MUHAMMAD WILKERSON, DT
The best that can be said for the former Jet is he made it through the six weeks with minimal injury. In his 46 snaps there wasn’t a hint of pass rush from a 28-year-old player who had 12 sacks three years ago. With his strength and exceptional size he was able to control some blockers. When he made tackles, it was less disengaging at the point of attack and more falling into or engulfing ball carriers. The Packers can only hope Wilkerson is more motivated come the regular season.
20. REGGIE GILBERT, OLB
Gilbert, an undrafted rookie in 2016, made such an impression that the coaches gave him the night off in Kansas City. There was no doubt he was the club’s best pass rusher in practice and the first three games. His next and biggest step will be finding methods to beat front-line tackles. He isn’t fast or strong. He does get off the ball in timely fashion, is able to bend beneath blockers and plays smart.
21. OREN BURKS, ILB
Burks, according to one scout, “ran around like a dog chasing cars” in his 41-play debut against Tennessee. In 28 plays the next week against Pittsburgh, he was more disciplined in his reads and turned in a solid performance. He has been out since Aug. 24 after suffering a shoulder injury in pre-game warmups. “Movement skills and explosiveness kind of trump the bulk size … that’s kind of the new-era linebacker,” defensive coordinator Mike Pettine said last month. “You’re looking for guys that are hybrid safeties. The league has really changed.” Burks started at free safety for Vanderbilt in 2015.
22. JAIRE ALEXANDER, CB
Played 61 snaps in three games and held up OK. He blew up a screen in Kansas City. He made a terrific interception in Oakland. He also appeared to misread Amari Cooper’s speed and then got beat at the ball for a 49-yard completion. He exercised questionable judgment on several punt returns. Whatever Alexander was asked to do all summer, he did it with bravado. He’s most assuredly no shrinking violet.
23. GERONIMO ALLISON, WR
Towering possession receiver knows how to use his body (sometimes by pushing off) against press coverage and in the inside game. Can make big-time grabs and has some giddy-up after the catch. His game seemed more reliable in Year 3 than in the past.
24. MASON CROSBY, K
Still money in the bank at 34. Nothing seems to faze the man. This summer, it was a new holder and rotating long snappers. Crosby was six for six on field goals (long of 53) and made all 13 extra points. He experimented with various types of kickoffs, too, averaging 64.4 yards and 3.98 seconds of hang time. His 17-boot averages last summer were 65.3 and 3.84. “Boy, he has a strong leg,” one scout said. “He’s quick to the ball and gets it up well. His kickoffs are different all the time. He’s one of the best kickers I’ve seen.”
25. MARCEDES LEWIS, TE
Some of the best work Lewis did was one day this spring when Rodgers worked individually with him inside the 10. He and Graham each measured 6-6 ½ at their respective combines, but with his 10-pound weight advantage Lewis is the more imposing figure of the two. Graham played basketball for four seasons at Miami but Lewis was good enough to have played college hoops, too. Graham edged Lewis in the vertical jump (38 ½ inches to 37) and the broad jump (10-0 to 9-10) whereas Lewis beat him on the bench press (23 reps to 15). Graham had the better Wonderlic score, 23-18. As his 13th season approaches, we’ll see how his legs are by mid-season.
26. JUSTIN McCRAY, G
When draft pick Cole Madison didn’t show up for training camp, the right-guard position fell to McCray almost by default. Considering he was cut twice by the Titans and endured a stint in indoor football, it’s a sizeable leap to think he can perform at a solid starter’s level. Last year, injuries forced him to play 594 snaps, but only one was at right guard. McCray’s smart and will battle all day long. He’s also a poor athlete whom one personnel man said deserved to be released after his performance against Pittsburgh.
27. TRAMON WILLIAMS, CB
Back in 2007, when Williams barely beat out Patrick Dendy for the last berth at cornerback, he was Mr. Irrelevant (No. 53) on this list. He leaped to 23rd in 2008, 15th in ’09, seventh in ’10, fifth in ’11 and ’12, 10th in ’13 and 13th in ’14 before circumstances took him to Cleveland and Arizona. It has been a memorable journey for the one-time free agent from Louisiana Tech. In limited exposure, it appears as if he still might be effective.
28. JASON SPRIGGS, T
After two seasons of getting beat inside and falling off blocks there was some uptick in Spriggs’ game. Having added a bunch of weight, he’s no longer thin. The extra poundage robbed him of some movement but he wasn’t getting shoved around as much, either. He’s still soft and a catcher, but not to the extent that he was in his first two seasons. For better or worse, he’s it as the swing tackle.
29. KENTRELL BRICE, S
Physically, he has just about everything it takes to be an impact safety. When moving in a straight-line from point A to point B, he gets there in a hurry. His 4.43 speed is evident pressuring the passer, closing on the ball carrier or getting to the boundary in a two-safety shell. Something’s missing in Brice’s game, though. He still reads and reacts like a small-school player (Louisiana Tech). Regardless, he gets first shot at filling Morgan Burnett’s old berth.
30. DEAN LOWRY, DE
If truth be told, Lowry gave the Packers everything that Wilkerson did this summer but with a lot more hustle. He’s a line-of-scrimmage player with the strength to absorb double teams. Lowry is versatile, smart and, on occasion, capable of getting on a blocker’s edge and making a play in the backfield.
31. TY MONTGOMERY, RB
No one in his right mind could expect him to stay on the field for a full season. At 220 pounds and with a rocked-up physique, Montgomery looks every bit the part. But he couldn’t stay healthy as a wide receiver-gadget player at Stanford and he certainly couldn’t last year as a running back. Even this summer, he was slowed by a foot injury. He does have superb hands but his ability to contribute as a third-down back hinges on blitz pickup. He looked awful trying to block Pittsburgh’s Bud Dupree in Game 2.
32. JOSH JONES, S
The Packers asked less of Jones this summer, hopeful that streamlining his responsibilities would enable his physical traits to shine. It wasn’t a good sign for Jones’ future that he failed to take command at safety in a competition with former free agent Kentrell Brice. Jones can run fast in a straight line (4.40) but doesn’t change direction well. He isn’t natural in space. When he does play, it remains to be seen if he’ll blow fewer assignments in Mike Pettine’s defense than he did in Dom Capers’ defense.
33. DAVON HOUSE, CB
The coaches kept House on ice for much of the summer. They didn’t push him in practice, and in three games he played just 36 snaps. Three different injuries ruined his first season back with the Packers. He enters this season healthy, which wasn’t the case a year ago. With youth coming to the forefront at cornerback, it’s unclear just how much House will be needed. He’s a big press corner and an excellent team guy.
34. LUCAS PATRICK, C-G
Patrick will start out backing up at center and guard, but if Justin McCray falters at RG look for him to get the call. The pugnacious Patrick is a tough guy with limitations in balance, quickness and strength. Of the 10 offensive linemen that played more than 30 snaps in August, he and McCray were the only two that worked to finish blocks. Patrick wades around looking for people to hit.
35. KYLER FACKRELL, OLB
Extremely durable, played 111 snaps and didn’t miss any practice time due to injury. Nevertheless, he just treaded water as his third season begins. He does have quickness off the ball, chases hard and plays smarter all the time. He also doesn’t set the edge consistently, struggles taking zone drops and has made little impact on special teams. Got a late start to his pro career and will be 27 in November. Pass rush will be at a premium, and if Fackrell can’t rev up his game his career will be over.
36. LANCE KENDRICKS, TE
Kendricks caught the ball very well all summer other than his drop in Oakland that would have been a 17-yard touchdown with a better adjustment. His hands were inconsistent (four drops, 29 targets) last season; in August, he was much more dependable, running through the ball and snatching it in his hands. Kendricks isn’t a big person, and it shows in goal-line and short-yardage situations. A one-time starter in St. Louis, he’ll need good fortune to approach his 44.6% playing time of a year ago.
37. TREVOR DAVIS, WR
Pulled a hamstring early and didn’t do much of anything until getting extensive return duty in the exhibition finale. The Packers did what they could to trade Davis in the days before and after the final cut but found no takers. Davis easily ranks as the top kickoff and punt returner on the roster, and can help as a gunner, too. He just offers next to nothing as a receiver other than unrefined speed.
38. JK SCOTT, P
The rookie from Alabama looked like a natural holding for Mason Crosby. As a punter, his gross average of 45.2 tied for 22nd and his net of 42.7 ranked ninth. His average hang time of 4.70 seconds far surpassed Justin Vogel’s average of 4.38 in the 2017 exhibition season. He also kicked off seven times, averaging 66.7 yards and 3.86 hang time. Scott has fantastic leg extension as a punter but needs to be more consistent with his placement and not so deliberate getting the ball off.
39. DeSHONE KIZER, QB
For the Browns in 2017, Kizer completed 51% of his 49 passes in exhibition games and 53.6% of 476 in the regular season. For the Packers, he hit 53.3% of his 60 passes. Obviously, Kizer has an accuracy problem, and it’s one reason coach Hue Jackson and GM John Dorsey didn’t even want him in camp for a second season. Everyone can see Kizer’s physical gifts: the high, quick release, the mobility and the big arm. At age 22, his game is just so erratic and, according to some scouts, he’s a hard guy to be around. Steady, improved Brett Hundley, 25, was a better bet to win games in 2018 but GM Brian Gutekunst took the sixth-round pick from Seattle and plunged forward with Kizer.
40. MONTRAVIUS ADAMS, DT
After a lost rookie season, Adams put injuries behind him and led the D-line in snaps with 124. He showed a measure of strength. When fresh, he held his own at the point of attack. His pass rush, however, was disappointing. He played with more quickness and activity at Auburn than this summer. When his initial rush was halted, much of the time he just stood at the line and thrashed without making any headway. It’s hard to say why he wasn’t more productive, especially against backups. Is he lazy? Are assignments slowing him down? Remember, it takes a special breed to rush effectively from the inside.
41. JERMAINE WHITEHEAD, S
Versatility helped him beat out Marwin Evans, another veteran safety. When injuries thinned the secondary in 2017 he actually served as the dime back in the last five games. He has a safety background but with just five cornerbacks on the roster the Packers won’t be shy having him cover from the slot. Gave up too many completions in exhibition games. Can be a difficult player to coach dating to his career at Auburn (2011-’14).
42. KOREY TOOMER, ILB
Cut by the 49ers Saturday, Toomer was signed 48 hours later to back up inside. He’s a phenomenal testing athlete with a 4.53 40 from six years ago. He can run and close on the football but has had a hard time processing what the offense is doing. A physical tackler, he contributes on special teams. Green Bay is his sixth team.
43. ANTONIO MORRISON, ILB
Morrison is an old-fashioned middle linebacker who started 15 games last season for the Colts and played 75.4% of the snaps. Played at Bolingbrook (Ill.) High School and Florida. He was a fourth-round pick in 2016 despite being the slowest LB (5.12) in the draft. “He’s rough around the edges,” one scout said before that draft. “Kind of in your face. He calls out any teammate that’s goofing off … Tough as nails. He’ll show up at your football facility at 6 before the janitor gets there and will still be watching tape at 11 at night.”
44. BYRON BELL, G-T
Arrived May 30 on a one-year contract worth $1.6 million ($500,000 guaranteed). Started at four positions for Carolina and Tennessee from 2011-’15. Suffered a season-ending ankle injury with the Titans in ’16 and then had to start two of 12 games in Dallas for injured LT Tyron Smith in ’17. Packers opted to keep his experience over Adam Pankey, another multi-position player. In March 2011, he measured 6-5 ½ and 339, with 34 1/2-inch arms and 10 1/8-inch hands. He managed just 20 reps on the bench press and posted 9 on the Wonderlic. His vertical jump was 30 ½ inches. His 74 regular-season starts include 48 at RT, 18 at LT, seven at LG and one at RG.
45. ROBERT TONYAN, TE
Tonyan separated himself from an excellent seven-man corps of tight ends with eight catches for 61 yards. In August 2017, the rookie free agent from Indiana State had two receptions for 21 in the Lions’ camp and was waived at the end of August. This summer, Tonyan (6-5, 250) caught the ball beautifully and demonstrated surprising toughness as a blocker. His athletic ability was reflected by a 35-inch vertical jump, a 10-5 broad jump and a 4.58 40 when he weighed just 231 in March 2017. His Wonderlic was 21.
46. J’MON MOORE, WR
August proved to be a rude awakening for Moore. Two years after posting a double-digit drop total at Missouri, it could be said he had the worst hands in camp. Most of Moore’s exposure in games came on take-off routes in which he’d reach back and try to make difficult catches. He didn’t adjust well at the ball, either. Moore has been humbled. How he responds will determine if he becomes a player.
47. MARQUEZ VALDEZ-SCANTLING, WR
Looked like a developmental player in August. Elongated deep threat with 4.38 speed but, strangely, merely a 30 ½ vertical jump. Showed some toughness working inside against Tennessee but none at all dancing on several of his eight kickoff returns. Appears to have limited value covering kicks.
48. HUNTER BRADLEY, LS
The Packers passed on a fairly sure thing, which would have been re-signing Brett Goode despite some slippage in his velocity on punt snaps. Free agent Zach Triner appeared to place the laces more precisely on placements than Bradley but the Packers went with the draft choice. Bradley was three years younger, too.
49. JAMES CRAWFORD, ILB
He ranked as the biggest surprise this year and perhaps in many other years. In five years at Illinois, he started just 16 of 36 games and didn’t have a sack until 2017, when he had four. Pulled a hamstring running his first 40 at pro day in March, never ran again and teams stuck him deep on their back boards. When injuries struck at inside linebacker early in camp the Packers got out their emergency list and out popped Crawford (6-2, 239), who figured to be a no-chance camp body after signing Aug. 8. Played just 40 snaps from scrimmage in the last three games but won a job covering kicks. “His ability to play on special teams at the level he played in Kansas City really shows you the caliber of player he is,” coach Mike McCarthy said. Ron Zook, the special teams coach, previously was head coach at Illinois and Florida; Crawford hails from Deerfield, Fla.
50. RAVEN GREENE, S
Greene would be Exhibit A for the value of playing four exhibition games. Until the last two weeks, he appeared to be behind veteran Marwin Evans. Then he forced a fumble in Oakland and delivered a number of strong, low tackles on defense and special teams in Kansas City. With that, this rookie free agent from FCS James Madison had earned a roster spot. He’s smart (Wonderlic of 24), fundamentally sound and disciplined.
51. TIM BOYLE, QB
Unlike Taysom Hill, the No. 3 quarterback the Packers let get away last summer, Boyle is a pocket thrower. In 107 snaps, 45 more than Hill had in August 2017, Boyle ran just four times for 2 yards. Boyle, however, might be a better pure passer than Hill, both from velocity and mechanical standpoints. At 6-3 ½ and 232, he’s able to stand tall in the pocket and deliver the ball despite jostling from the rush. He’s not a statue, either, with a 40 time of 4.78. It’s remarkable that a player with a passer rating of 42.6 in three seasons at Connecticut (he played as a senior at Eastern Kentucky) could show this well in Green Bay. Unlike slow, small Joe Callahan, Boyle gives Mike McCarthy some tools to coach.
52. DARIUS JACKSON, RB
At 220 pounds Jackson ran 4.39 in March 2016. He’s listed now at 228, but even if his speed would be 4.45 now he’s still a big man with big speed. He’s also smart (Wonderlic of 32), which gives him a leg up on the multitude of protections he’ll have to know in order to get on the field.
53. ALEX LIGHT, T
He isn’t ready to play by a long shot. Not many rookie free agents from FCS Richmond are. Once Light settled in he held his own as a left tackle, particularly in Oakland. Recognizing left tackles are hard to come by, the Packers decided to keep him over Adam Pankey and Kyle Murphy. Light can’t run a lick (5.55) but was fairly light on his feet and used his enormous hands (11 ¼ inches) well in pass protection.
54. EQUANIMEOUS ST. BROWN, WR
St. Brown led the receivers in snaps (148) but produced just six catches for 83 yards. His hands weren’t reliable. He’s huge and can run, but doesn’t play to his 4.47 clocking. He was slow off the ball trying to separate from press coverage. At this point, he’s a possession type receiver with loads of unfulfilled potential.
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