2026 Black Monday Thread

realitybytes said:
demovsky has already posted two videos talking about what a horrible decision it was to rush to sign gannon instead of leonhard. i hope the packers ban him from press conferences.
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Did he delete them did not see him on his X page.
 
rpiotr01 said:
Listen, if Fritz Shurmur came back from the dead and wanted to coach again, yeah I'd want ML to interview him. I just don't see the fuss over Jim Leonard though, except that he's from Wisconsin or whatever.
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It's homerism. Anyone who was a fan favorite as a Badger or a Packer fans want back as a player or coach. Does not matter if they are good or not or washed up just hey bring back a guy we loved to cheer for.
 
rpiotr01 said:
Listen, if Fritz Shurmur came back from the dead and wanted to coach again, yeah I'd want ML to interview him. I just don't see the fuss over Jim Leonard though, except that he's from Wisconsin or whatever.
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It's a terrible trend in WI sports: homegrown blah blah. I admit I may once have felt that way, but now it's a blind spot that has hurt different programs through the years.
 
realitybytes said:
i don't mean to be obtuse or confrontational, but please explain what the thought behind it is. the miss on tj watt is almost unforgiveable in my eyes. hometown hero or not, he was clearly the best option at that point in the draft. trading down and drafting kevin king was a bonehead move. and then compounding that error by taking josh jones instead of juju (the very next pick) or cooper kupp (7 picks later). and then in the 3rd round, we take montravious adams? and then just to prove we aren't anti-hometown, we take vince beigel with the other pick from the trade. this has to be one of green bay's worst drafts ever. the rest of the picks: jamaal williams, deangelo yancey, aaron jones (the lone gold nugget - taken with the 39th pick in the 5th round), and then finishing up with kofi amechia, devante mays, and malachi dupre. there were a lot of bad decisions made in that draft and one very fortunate pick. aaron jones kept that draft from being a complete disaster. but it was still a disaster imho.
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Well first of all I singled out TJ Watt there for a reason. OLB was a need at the time, a tad less so than corner, but TJ was seen as as pretty good prospect and clearly GB should've picked him, and the fact that he turned out to be a HOF type player just makes it worse. I don't see a need to re-litigate the rest of the 2017 draft, it's not relevant to the point I was making, and it's well past the point of me caring any more.

My point was that the GB org has shied away from hiring home town heroes because more often than not it distorts the perceptions of fans and media and raises expectations to levels that are unhealthy. GB went through a period of time when the team was run by the Board - all local people with local ties - and hired connected, local people to run the team. Dan Devine I believe was a Wisconsin native. Bart Starr, Forrest Gregg. They weren't looking for the best guy, they were looking for a local or connected guy. I understand why, after having gone through that period of failure, the org would generally shy away from it. For all that people still piss and moan about "muh 70's and 80's!", many of them don't seem to understand WHY the team was bad in the 70s and 80s.

So yeah, they missed out on TJ Watt. That sucks. And who knows, maybe Jim Leonard is the coaching equivalent of TJ Watt. But I understand the org's mindset on this. Not that I 100% agree with it, or disagree with it. But I understand it.
 
Wish they would just give up the Leonhard talk. First time DC MLF did not have luxury to take risk Leonhard could be do it right away at NFL level and also did not need these say idiots screaming to have ML fired and Leonhard promoted in his place.

Same would have gone if they hired Al Harris as DC.
 
realitybytes said:
here's one. i'll see if i can find the other:
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i guess i need to backtrack on that a little. after listening to the other one again, demovsky was saying that the packers believed that if gannon left without a contract that they would likely lose him to one of the harbaughs and that was the reason they "rushed" the hire rather than wait for leonhard to be able to interview. because if they waited and then leonhard got a better offer from a team like buffalo, the packers might not have gotten either of them.
 
realitybytes said:
i guess i need to backtrack on that a little. after listening to the other one again, demovsky was saying that the packers believed that if gannon left without a contract that they would likely lose him to one of the harbaughs and that was the reason they "rushed" the hire rather than wait for leonhard to be able to interview. because if they waited and then leonhard got a better offer from a team like buffalo, the packers might not have gotten either of them.
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Well Leonhard did screw them few years ago when they thought he was going to take job they waited 2 weeks then all of a sudden he said no it's end of Jan and best they can do is Joe Barry.
 
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