Post Game Thread : Packers hold off Lions 34-27

Pugger said:
I doubt the players are wondering "What the hell went wrong?" They know the W is the goal. Come January nobody is gonna give a rip what the score was. You won't hear NE fans moan about beating the Dolphins by "only" 7 at home.

It appears to me that when we are playing a team deemed inferior and we don't blow such a team out of Lambeau by a big margin that that win is tainted in some way. Half of our defensive starters were out so it shouldn't be a shock that a QB like Stafford would do his thing. I suspect every member of the Lions would gleefully give back all those yards for the W. smh
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NO....the issue is regardless of a W or a L this team isn't above criticism or critique. If some people want to take the ggg( approach to this team fantastic but that's not how we roll here...never has been. There were positives and negatives of yesterday's game... of every game and we break those down and discuss them. No holds barred.
 
TW said:
Quick analysis. Watched the game off DVR last night. Still traveling to South Texas.

The Packers played 25 minutes of football. You do that against a team that's decent, and you watch that big lead evaporate, and you lose by 10.

There's obviously issues in making adjustments on the fly. That falls on the coaches. It's also time that McCarthy dump the "Prevent offense and defense mentality." Despite the win, the players have to be looking at the last 35 minutes of the game and asking themselves, "What the hell went wrong?" It's obvious the fans at Lambeau Field saw it, and so did anyone else who watched the game.

You're not going to win a Lombardi Trophy if you don't have the killer instinct in games.
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It was 31 -10 at half time. You have a depleted defense which lacked depth in the first place, Why start being Steve Spurrier and playing the fun and gun offense? Lacy was running well. The clock is your friend.

What went wrong was no pass rush. Without your shut down corner and your best edge rusher.

Not sure what fans expect.
 
Pugger said:
I doubt the players are wondering "What the hell went wrong?" They know the W is the goal. Come January nobody is gonna give a rip what the score was. You won't hear NE fans moan about beating the Dolphins by "only" 7 at home.
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well, this is exactly what aaron rodgers was saying in his post-game interview. his exact words were "i care about wins". and i think that's what we as fans should care about too. winning by a couple dozen points maybe gives you ammo for bragging, but it doesn't get you any higher in the standings than winning by a couple points.
 
The first half was like a coming home party, everybody was having fun. Hell, even Adams looked good. Then the second half felt like a hangover. We saw the same things that have driven us crazy for the last couple of years. The 'prevent nothing' defense AND (though Lacy ran well) the offense didn't execute. Dropped balls and ARod running. He ran because he WOULD NOT hit the underneath gimme. He wanted the home run. If he could just settle back, toss the crosser, move the chains; he would keep our defense off the field and Stafford wouldn't have been dissecting Hyde/Randall on that 15-20 out.
Yes, the offense looked better. Yes, the defense had a lot of injuries.
I'm glad we won, but to say I'm happy would be a lie. We should have crushed them, we were crushing them and let them back in. Even injured I expect more of our defense.

Does anyone think MM gives direction to Capers, like 'let's go into our shitty prevent!' Just wondering.
 
Game balls go to Nick Perry, Aaron Rodgers and Eddie Lacy....all 3 of them had good days.
 
So here is the thing:

Yeah we scored 34 points but we did it against the Lions.

If we play the Denver defense or a good defense, (see the Vikings game) we look like podo(. Offensively, we still have a problem with scheming against what a defense is actually doing. We still didn't use all of our WR's (Davis, Montgomery, and Abby) although they played a few more snaps. AR is still looking downfield and not using the crossing routes and check downs. (Starks and Lacy were open at least three times and he held on to the ball or threw it down field)

This is why when we play good defense that can match up man to man against our WR's, we have problems and have for the last 15 games. AR doesn't check down and go short and MM does not scheme.

We will see what happens against the better defenses. Even the Giants after the buy week. DHH(
 
I'm a bit confused. We outscored the Lions 31-3 over a period of 25 minutes. Then, magically, our offense and defense disappeared, and a "new team" appeared. A team that was beaten by the Lions 24-3, over a 35 minutes span of the game.

Yet, that 35 minute melt down doesn't matter, because the Packers have injuries, it don't matter how well you play, a W is a W, no matter how you get it. In other words, the fact that they slipped right back into the mode they'd been in for prior games, is not relevant.

I think it is relevant. I think what happened after we got the lead has to be visited and revisited, until we reach a point that what happened doesn't happen any more. A team that does a Jekyll & Hyde number like the Packers did has some serious problems.

No matter how you look at it, or want to look at it, the Packers have this way of letting teams off the hook. We've watched for a long time now, and we've even watched leads in playoff games disappear, and turn into losses.

We watched Rodgers work his magic. We saw the Aaron Rodgers that makes things happen. Then we saw an Aaron Rodgers who is edgy, and doesn't have a real grasp on what it takes to move a football team. I don't believe it was his fault. I believe it was due to the offensive changes that pretty much took the game out of his hands. It was the coach's decision.

I watched Capers' defense hitting on all 8-cylinders. They were in the face of the Lions, making plays, and making defensive plays all over the field. Then, like magic, the bull rushes, and the blitzes disappeared, and a vanilla defense that's prone to be burned in medium to short routes in the middle appeared. You know.... the defense that looks like it doesn't belong in the NFL? It was vanilla. Ain't nothing because there was absolutely no pressure to speak of.

Blame it on injuries? Not on your life. They played lights out football for 25 minutes, then someone threw a switch, and it all changed, just like on the offense. This is a coaching move, not some "unknown force" that suddenly turned our defense from a top 10 to a bottom 5 in the blink of an eye. And it started before halftime, when we gave up that long TD. Something, in the locker room, at halftime, caused it to get worse.

I'm not accepting this as a great win. I'm going to stick with what I've said before, and said, even before the game, that the Packers would get a big lead, and squander it. It wasn't a lucky guess, it was what I knew, in my heart, was going to happen. Just like I said the week before, that the Vikings would win. Not because I wanted them to win, but because McCarthy just doesn't answer the call the way a winning coach should. He has to quit backing off when we have leads. It's cost us before, and we didn't go into the bye with the knowledge we got better. We went into the bye with the knowledge that for the last 35 minutes of a football game, the Packers were humiliated 24-3 by a team that is a door mat in the league, and it happened in our house.

If you don't agree with me, I understand. But it's pretty hard to disagree with over 80,000 fans who were in the stands, booing what the Packers were doing in the 4th quarter. They knew the Packers were stinking up the field.
 
A weakened defense without 4 of its starters was getting worked by a strong armed QB taking advantage of raw DBs in the second half. If Clay, Letroy, Sammy and Burnett were playing in that game yesterday do the Lions come back like they did? I have my doubts. In the second half our D couldn't get off the field so our offense only had 4 or 5 drives. It is hard to get any rhythm going when you're sitting on the bench. This isn't the first time a team got a early big lead and the other team made a comeback only to come up short.
 
Pugger said:
A weakened defense without 4 of its starters was getting worked by a strong armed QB taking advantage of raw DBs in the second half. If Clay, Letroy, Sammy and Burnett were playing in that game yesterday do the Lions come back like they did? I have my doubts. In the second half our D couldn't get off the field so our offense only had 4 or 5 drives. It is hard to get any rhythm going when you're sitting on the bench. This isn't the first time a team got a early big lead and the other team made a comeback only to come up short.
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Same defense with those players got lit up by Sam Bradfords passing game the week before. Same defense with those players got lit up last season against several QB... not to mention Capers went heavy cover 2 and 3 with virtually no pressure after half.

I've been playing or coaching defense for 33 years and these Corners the last 2 yrs are playing as badly as any in that time span.. lazy ugly technique.
 
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