Brian Gutekunst/Murphy Power Structure

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Just to clarify from this mornings Athletic article ~

Analysis: This is the big one. For the legions of fans imploring general manager Brian Gutekunst to send the ultimate message by firing McCarthy, consider this a friendly reminder: He can’t. When Murphy transitioned former general manager Ted Thompson to a new position as senior advisor to football operations, he also overhauled the power structure and gave himself wide-ranging authority over football matters. The new chain of command placed Murphy at the top and created a second tier with Gutekunst, McCarthy and executive vice president/director of football operations Russ Ball on equal footing beneath him. It’s Murphy who has the sole power to hire and fire a coach. It’s Murphy who has the sole power to hire and fire a general manager. He created a system in which Gutekunst, McCarthy and Ball report directly to him. That’s not to say Murphy wouldn’t value Gutekunst’s opinion on certain things, especially for something as serious as parting ways with a head coach, but the final decision belongs to the man at the top. Murphy and McCarthy have been meeting on a weekly basis throughout the spring, summer and into the regular season as a means of increasing communication within the new organizational framework. Both sides seem pleased with the consistent dialogue after Murphy vowed to tear down the “silos” that had formed under Thompson. McCarthy said Friday that he and Murphy have never discussed his job security and are focused instead on the 2018 season. But if things continue to go south during the next few weeks — or even if they don’t and the Packers sneak into the playoffs — Murphy is surely contemplating one of the biggest decisions of his career. Will he fire McCarthy after 13 seasons to give the team a fresh start? And if he does, how much input will be afforded to Gutekunst when selecting McCarthy’s successor? The answers to those questions should serve as a case study of Murphy’s delicate hierarchy.
 
We knew this was going to be a problem. Guess we will see at season's end. Can't imagine Hurry being around too long if Murphy doesn't back or over rules him on football matters, such as free agents, coaches etc.
 
We knew this was going to be a problem. Guess we will see at season's end. Can't imagine Hurry being around too long if Murphy doesn't back or over rules him on football matters, such as free agents, coaches etc.
Gutekunst knew what he was getting into when he accepted jobs as GM that he was a limited power GM. Makes me wonder if Elliot Wolf was offered job and did not take it because of limited power GM as his father had turned down the GM role years before from GB when he would have been a limited power GM.
 
I think those guys who left definitely wanted no part in that kind of ridiculous power structure.

MM and Murphy are now tied at the hip. As long as Murphy is here so is MM. Really only reason for Murphy to change the structure and make a GM in name only is to protect certain people.

I hope the BOD can see the cluster f*** for what it is and force Murphy out too...
 
I think those guys who left definitely wanted no part in that kind of ridiculous power structure.

MM and Murphy are now tied at the hip. As long as Murphy is here so is MM. Really only reason for Murphy to change the structure and make a GM in name only is to protect certain people.

I hope the BOD can see the cluster f*** for what it is and force Murphy out too...
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Open question for anyone...So say they get rid of Murphy (don't see it happening) who do they replace him with?

Also think Gute stays but with MM gone maybe Gute gets true GM power back?
 
Open question for anyone...So say they get rid of Murphy (don't see it happening) who do they replace him with?

Also think Gute stays but with MM gone maybe Gute gets true GM power back?


The old power structure wasn't an issue IMO. The issue was Murphy was almost completely hands off with TT with zero accountability. That's why TT was able to muck things up like he did and Murphy is now scrambling to save face and cover his butt. The issue wasn't with the structure, it was with Murphy.

Who you replace him with? Someone from outside the organization who will sign something swearing to never listen to, or take a call from Casserly.

It's too bad GB has lost so much front office talent over the years. Those were the guys that should be getting promoted to positions like that. But now you almost have to go outside the organization.
 
Open question for anyone...So say they get rid of Murphy (don't see it happening) who do they replace him with?

Also think Gute stays but with MM gone maybe Gute gets true GM power back?
IMO Russ Ball is president in waiting for Murphy to retire.
 
It's too bad GB has lost so much front office talent over the years. Those were the guys that should be getting promoted to positions like that. But now you almost have to go outside the organization.

All Murphy needed to do was call John Dorsey and offer him the job, and those guys would be right back in here in the pipeline. Talent will come and go from a front office, it hurts but it’s what happens to a successful org and that’s fine. The problem was the carpet bagging red menace screwed up the easiest decision he’d ever have to make.

He saw an engine that needed a new belt, and rather than replace the broken part, decided instead to remove the entire engine and propel the car with his feet like Fred Flintstone (“It’s great exercise!” said Charlie Casserly, assuringly)
 
For openers, the Packers are not going to send Murphy packing. He's the man who has pushed the Packer Experience to new levels, and it's money in the bank for the team. Right now, he's teflon, assuming he makes the right calls on his football personnel. He's not about to let the clown circus bring him down.
 
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