Post Game Thread : Cards Beat GB In OT 26-20

[Cheesedog]

Thanks for that article.. Interesting stuff. Some time away will definitely be good for him.

Looking back at the game video, there were several plays Saturday night in which the Packers had chances for good plays but Rodgers didn’t throw. Often the open man was Jeff Janis, a second-year player the Packers’ coaching staff and Rodgers clearly didn’t fully trust all season based on his performance in practice.
It makes sense that a veteran coach and quarterback would have a big problem with a receiver who doesn’t run good routes. But at a certain point, if a guy has shown he also can make plays that nobody else is making, you just have to go with it, throw him the ball and see if he learns.
When Randall Cobb’s chest injury forced the team to go with Janis as its No. 3 for the final three quarters Saturday night, he no doubt made his share of errors. But he also delivered with seven catches for 145 yards, and he and fellow second-year pro Jared Abbrederis could have done even more.
For instance, on three straight plays in the red zone at the end of the first half, Janis or Abbrederis was open but Rodgers opted to go elsewhere.

ouch.... Clearly a QB who is not focused. Either the OL really has him nervous or he's just not mentally focused.

Read that article about how open Janis and sometimes Abbey were getting and it actually sounds like MM had a solid game plan. But Arod just really screwed up.

 

[Dubz41]

He seemed to hold on to the ball more this year. He didn't look as decisive as previous years. Most troubling was when he did find open guy (they weren't open often)he sometimes misfired. He only had 31(?) TDs and a whopping 7 ints.
RUN HIM OUT OF TOWN! Tolzien, Tolzien!

Really? He was second most sacked QB in the league. Played behind a swiss cheese OL with five different starting LTs (Bak, Barclay, Tretter, Sitton and I think Walker even got there one game) Playing with a new play caller and restructured staff. Take away top WR and just for kicks- have your 'star' RB show up looking like a OG. Stumble to a 10-6 record, make the playoffs. Win a playoff game. Then play the #1 offensive and #5 Defensive team at their house. Lose more WRs to injury, lead a frantic comeback to tie the game with your last three WRs on the roster and a TE who couldn't beat your grandma to the mailbox. Lose in OT without getting the ball. Yea, let's bitch about Arod a little more. He's a bum right?

Methinks some fans are spoiled and bored. Just my opinion. I'm still pissed we lost, but when I look back at it all I see is Playmaker(?) Sam Shields dropping those interceptions.

 

[Cheesedog]

He seemed to hold on to the ball more this year. He didn't look as decisive as previous years. Most troubling was when he did find open guy (they weren't open often)he sometimes misfired. He only had 31(?) TDs and a whopping 7 ints.
RUN HIM OUT OF TOWN! Tolzien, Tolzien!

Really? He was second most sacked QB in the league. Played behind a swiss cheese OL with five different starting LTs (Bak, Barclay, Tretter, Sitton and I think Walker even got there one game) Playing with a new play caller and restructured staff. Take away top WR and just for kicks- have your 'star' RB show up looking like a OG. Stumble to a 10-6 record, make the playoffs. Win a playoff game. Then play the #1 offensive and #5 Defensive team at their house. Lose more WRs to injury, lead a frantic comeback to tie the game with your last three WRs on the roster and a TE who couldn't beat your grandma to the mailbox. Lose in OT without getting the ball. Yea, let's bitch about Arod a little more. He's a bum right?

Methinks some fans are spoiled and bored. Just my opinion. I'm still pissed we lost, but when I look back at it all I see is Playmaker(?) Sam Shields dropping those interceptions.

Actually he was 10th most sacked in the league.. Behind Tom Brady.... Who also lost his OL, WR, and to boot his top 3 RB's... But is in the AFCC and led the league in passing yards and TD's

Arod gets paid big $$$ and take sup a big chunk of cap space to make plays regardless of circumstance. That's what MVP's do.. So yes, he deserves some scrutiny.

 

[Dubz41]

Didn't ever say he was beyond reproach. I also think it is acknowledged that Brady's coaches are a level above Rodgers coaches, or is that his fault too? Don't mean to be snarky, but we have guys who take up big chunks of cap space and NONE of them made a play. (CMIII, Shields, Cobb) Aaron did not seem himself this year, but he still had a year most teams wish for.

 

[rpiotr01]

I'm not going to complain too much about a QB who made two of the great throws you will ever see a QB make this season, but he clearly didn't do everything to make circumstances work this year. He's been at odds with offensive game plans sometimes, and flat out guessing wrong on the limited reads he's been able to make before pressure gets home. I'd like to say he needs to do better next year, but I'm hoping we don't have this situation arise.

Methinks some fans are spoiled and bored. Just my opinion.

Strongly agree. This also seems to be a universal truth in life, not just sports and certainly not just the 2015 Packers.

 

[Titletown Soundoff]

Sometimes, Janis Just Ain’t Enough: To Recap Packers vs Cardinals Divisional Playoff, by James Korsmo

About 24 hours have passed since the Green Bay Packers 2015 season came to an end. It was a spectacularly, almost cartoonishly heart wrenching way to end this season. For most of the 4th quarter and all 3 plays of overtime I felt like I was in a washing machine full of both velvet smoking jackets and Brillo pads.





Wide Receivers

After losing Randall Cobb to what the Packers are calling a bruised lung in the first quarter, they were left with a receiving corps of James Jones, Jared Abbrederis, and Jeff Janis. Jones was about as effective as a milkshake on a sunburn, thanks to Patrick Peterson and his own lack of athletic ability. In a nutshell, it was the Abbrederis and Janis show for 3 quarters of the game. AND IT WORKED. It absolutely went about a million times better than any logical human being could have ever imagined. Abbrederis dropped the first pass thrown his way, then quickly became the go to guy for the next few series. It was clear that Aaron Rodgers found his rhythm with Abby, and as he got more comfortable throwing the ball to him, Jeff Janis had some sort of revelation from another dimension. I want you to clear your eyes before you read this next statistic. Put some Visine in, drink a cup of coffee, get a full night’s sleep so you can process this properly: Janis caught 7 passes for 145 yards and 2 touchdowns. In a Divisional Playoff game, on the road, against the 8th ranked pass defense in the NFL.

Have you awoken from your fainting episode? Welcome back, it’s a new world we’re living in. Watch out for the Soylent Green. Anyway, Janis played NFL caliber wide receiver for 3 quarters of a playoff game. His route running is still just a hair better than mine when I’m playing Madden after a few boilermakers, but somehow he was able to find the ball when it counted most. He caught 2 hail marys (hails mary?) on the final Packers drive, including the hail mary to send the game to overtime despite one of the best defensive backs in the game doing everything he could to knock the ball free. It shouldn’t be that big of a shock, considering the route is just running fast in a straight line then jumping, but I didn’t think he could even do that correctly. Thank you for proving my wrong, Jeff. Now spend the next 8 months reading the playbook.



Offensive Line

Please indulge me if you will, I have something I need to say directly to David Bakhtiari. I know for a fact that he reads this article as soon as he wakes up the day after a game, so I’m fully confident he will see this.

David, I owe you an apology. In the past I have been known to say some unkind things about you, especially after games where you have had a few penalties. After watching how Dwight Freeney and Calais Campbell abused your linemates (Is that what they like to be called? I don’t know the nomenclature…) a few weeks ago, watching you this week was a revelation. The entire line played extremely well, but you were the backbone. Rodgers was only sacked once, and that was during the final drive of the game when Arizona blitzed every player they had and most of the front office. It was one of the best blocked games of the season, and a lot of that is because of you. So, I apologize for the mean things I said. You didn’t deserve it, and I hope you can find it in your heart to forgive me. P.S. Your hair is better than Clay Mathews hair. I’ve always said that.

Sincerely,

Me





Mike McCarthy

This game was one of those reminders that McCarthy can coach his tail off when he needs to. After Cobb went down, McCarthy had a couple of choices. He could have tucked his tail, pounded Lacy and Starks into the ground, and prayed for the best. But he didn’t. He was even more aggressive, and let the best player on the field make plays. Yes, I’m talking about Jeff Janis. (No I’m not. For real, I’m not.)

In my opinion, McCarthy’s confidence in Aaron Rodgers in the face of such adversity spoke volumes about where their relationship is at right now. Things were looking ugly a month ago. There was a lot of talk about McCarthy losing the locker room, Rodgers having a diva complex in regards to playcalling, and the lack of respect McCarthy was showing his quarterback. It was almost full blown crisis lockdown mode at 1265 Lombardi Ave.

The relationship between Rodgers and McCarthy has always appeared to be complex. There is a lot of give and take between the two of them, and sometimes neither one wants to give. They are two stubborn men who share a goal but can have different opinions on how to reach it. Over the past decade we have seen the two of them clash on a fairly regular basis, but this is the foundation of how a productive relationship works. It requires honesty and the ability to get over yourself, but it is possible to have a productive, healthy working relationship under these parameters. Just look at George Jetson and Cosmo Spacely. Jetson was fired every single episode, yet somehow he and Spacely were able to maintain a thriving sprocket manufacturing company.

McCarthy deserves a lot of credit for how well Green Bay played. The Packers had no business playing as well as they did with the personnel they had, but aggressive and smart playcalling set them up for immediate success. Prolonged success going forward into next season will be based on the foundation of this game.



Defense

There is no shame in how the defense played 99% of the game. The Cardinals are the most dynamic team in the league. They can beat you in myriad ways. Three weeks ago, they had 26 rushes for 121 yards. This week they had 19 rushes for 40 yards. You can’t ask for a better run defense against a team who is very good at running the football. Carson Palmer was 25/41 for 349 yards and 3 touchdowns. But he also had 2 interceptions, and about a half dozen other passes that should have been picked off. The Packers defense held the Cardinals offense without a big play for most of the game. Other than the long catch and run for Larry Fitzgerald in overtime, the Cardinals longest play from scrimmage was a pass to John Brown for 21 yards. You just can’t ask for much more against such a potent offense.

Perhaps the biggest defensive mistakes were made by Sam Shields. He had the opportunity to intercept no fewer than 3 passes, and didn’t get any of them. The last one, in the 4th quarter, was right to him and probably would have been an easy pick six. Instead, he dropped the ball, and 3 plays later Palmer hit Fitzgerald in the hands so hard that Michael Floyd caught it for a touchdown. Nobody can say if Green Bay would have won if Shields would have been able to hold on to any of those interceptions, but it sure would be nice to be able to talk about how he was the MVP.

But instead, what most people will be talking about is that overtime pass to Fitzgerald. The Cardinals did exactly what the Seahawks did last year in overtime during the NFC Championship game. They found a weakness, and exploited it for a huge play. Dom Capers was being very aggressive with his blitzes all game, and Palmer had been a sitting duck in the pocket. When the Packers overloaded the left side of the line and Palmer was able to escape the pocket, Julius Peppers gave up his assignment of staying in the same area code as a future hall of fame wide receiver. I suppose he may have thought that Palmer didn’t have the ability to scramble that far, or the arm to throw the ball across the field like that. Maybe his defensive end brain kicked in and he forgot all about coverage. Whatever the reason, his lapse in critical thinking left Fitzgerald wide open, and the Packers tendency to go for the ball instead of the man carrying it cost them tackles. 2 plays later, game over. The book is written on how to beat the Packers defense in extra time. It’s time for Dom Capers to change the narrative.



Aaron Rodgers

I saved the best for last. The biggest reason my heart aches today is because this was the first game in a long time where Rodgers’ desire to win was so tangible that it effected the rest of the team. Was he perfect? No, not by a long shot. He made a few bad throws (but to be fair, it’s difficult to judge the accuracy of a throw when it’s intended for Janis), and I don’t think I will ever understand why he did not spike the ball after the first hail mary of the last drive. But the sheer heart he showed, his unmitigated will to win, was undeniable. He put the offense on his back and did everything he could to lead them to a win. I’m not sure if you saw what I wrote a few lines back, but he threw 2 hail marys (hail mari?) on the same drive. One of them was from his own end zone. You can say that there is no quarterback skill involved, you can say that Janis got lucky, you can say that I’m a dreamer, but I’m not the only one. Watch the throw to tie the game at the end of regulation. The man was on the run, falling away from the throw. The ball went 50 yards with the flick of his wrist. Not to mention the scrambling that he had to do just to get the throw off in the first place. It’s incredible.

Rodgers has deserved most of the criticism he has received this season. But the outcome of this game is not on his shoulders. It just isn’t. There are many other factors that contributed to the Packers loss, but given who he was throwing to and the defense he was facing, I just cannot fault Rodgers.

Next Season

There is no reason to hang our heads and lament about what could have been. What’s done is done. This season is over. All in all, Green Bay probably did about as well as they could given their problems. Although it’s a sad thought, it’s probably accurate to say that without Jordy Nelson, Ty Montgomery, a productive Davante Adams, or a potent running game, this was the ceiling for them. But there is all kinds of hope. Next season the Packers will get all the injured players back. There will have been 8 months to implement an offensive gameplan and philosophy. The defense, although they will lose at least 1 or 2 key players from this year, will be back. The pieces should all be in the box, it will be up to McCarthy and the rest of the coaching staff to put them together. There is no reason to believe that next season will be anything but an improvement for the Green Bay Packers. Hold your heads high, Packer fans. There is a lot to look forward to. I cannot wait for August.

GO PACK GO

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[Half Empty]

I'm not going to complain too much about a QB who made two of the great throws you will ever see a QB make this season, but he clearly didn't do everything to make circumstances work this year. He's been at odds with offensive game plans sometimes, and flat out guessing wrong on the limited reads he's been able to make before pressure gets home. I'd like to say he needs to do better next year, but I'm hoping we don't have this situation arise.



Strongly agree. This also seems to be a universal truth in life, not just sports and certainly not just the 2015 Packers.

Won't get off topic by addressing the 'life' situation - be glad to wherever else is appropriate.

As to the Packers, I guess this is the one place I haven't gone off on the 'spoiled' concept. Most folks on the other side of the argument point to won/lost record, division titles, number of years in the playoffs, that sort of thing. As for me, it's all about expectations, based on the sense of the fan-base, Vegas, and anything else that gives me a feel for how they ought to do. Going back to the Gory Years, I knew going into the season that they had no business winning much, so every win was gravy, particularly those that hurt more highly-rated teams chances.

For the last couple of decades, they've dangled the Lombardi in front of me most years, coming through twice. Offer me something nice, then take it away from me in agonizing fashion, and I get upset. Is that being spoiled? As with everything else here, it's a matter of opinion. I prefer to think of it as "fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me, fool me year after year, and I'm really going to think you've deprived me of something".

 

[Da-news-now]

The final game of Green Bay's season is our final chance to get the roundtable together for game reactions, this time responding to the ridiculous end to 2015 in Arizona.

The Green Bay Packers' 2015 season ended in the desert on Saturday evening, and unlike their season, which was mostly a whimper, this club went out with a bang in its final game. From unlikely heroes to a ridiculous failed coin flip to dropped interceptions and a blown coverage at the worst possible time, this game will in time become as memorable as any of the Packers' recent playoff disappointments.

And yet, while some of APC's emotions run deep with frustration, there is also appreciation here: for the special teams gunner who finally got his chance on offense and made the most of it; for a quarterback who continues to have truly special moments despite his worst season in recent memory; for a defense that played its tail off until the final moments.

And yet, here we are, looking forward to the draft two weeks earlier than we had hoped.

Let's take a look back at Saturday.

Tex


It almost seems fitting that a season which has caused so much discord, debate, and displeasure among Green Bay Packers fans ended in the way it did on Saturday: with more than a little discord, results that are sure to spark plenty more issues to debate throughout the offseason, and reasons to continue to be displeased with both the process and the final result.

Let's face it - the performance put up by Jeff Janis is one that will not soon be forgotten by any fan of the Green and Gold. The sheer unlikeliness of that series of events is the kind of thing that should only be possible with an infinite improbability drive. Think about it: how unlikely is it for a single player to pick up more than 100 yards of offense on a single drive in NFL history? Now, how unlikely is it for that player to start the season 5th on the depth chart at wide receiver, and have fewer than 100 yards of offense in his entire career before that? Now add a 4th-and-20 conversion and a completed Hail Mary (over one of the league's very best cornerbacks, no less), and it felt like Packers fans had just won the Powerball jackpot.

That performance is one that rightly calls into question the coaching staff's refusal to give the Hype Train more snaps throughout the season, and he looked more and more comfortable as the game went on and he got into the flow of the offense.

Alas, it didn't matter, thanks to Mike Daniels and Mike Neal missing a sack on the first play of overtime, a couple of guys blowing assignments to allow Larry Fitzgerald to get open, and then a hilarious, Benny Hill-esque tackling performance that let him get down to the five-yard line. After the thrill, elation, and ridiculousness of the previous half hour (and I didn't even mention the coin flip), to see all of that happen on the first snap of extra time was a proverbial kick to the crotch, followed by a chair being smashed over our prone backs and then a bottle broken over our heads.

And yet, this ending did not seem to impact me nearly as much as last year's loss in Seattle. Maybe it's because this team never necessarily looked like they were the better team. Maybe it's because it took a miracle to even get to overtime. Maybe it's because after Randall Cobb started coughing up blood, the Packers weren't playing a single receiver who started training camp in the top four on the depth chart.

Whatever the reason, I am not devastated. It was an incredible game; the kind you'd love to watch if you had no stake in it, and it gave us some incredible memories, despite the final result. And now, with Ted Thompson already moving on to draft season, it's about time we do too.

Jason


Multiple factors led to the Green Bay Packers' demise last Saturday. Though it didn't sink them alone, Mike McCarthy's conservative approach in scoring situations ultimately cost the team a return to the NFC Championship, the game he lost a year earlier by making similar mistakes.

After Aaron Rodgers' first touchdown to Jeff Janis put the Packers ahead 12-7, McCarthy could have opted to go for two and put his team up by seven. While not a cut-and-dry call, the Packers already led by more than a field goal, and the additional points provided protection against an Arizona touchdown. Even a failed two-point conversion doesn't cost Green Bay much, as they would still maintain a lead greater than a field goal.

Regardless, McCarthy's decision take the points after the end-of-regulation score proved more egregious. Faced with the choice of trying to gain 2 yards for the win or rolling the dice in overtime, the McCarthy chose the latter.

According to ESPN, the Packers converted five of their nine two-point attempts over the past three seasons, more than seven percent above than the league average. With the Cardinals reeling after giving up a 41-yard Hail Mary, McCarthy had his best chance to put his foot on Arizona's jugular.

McCarthy does plenty of good for the Packers. He has a well-deserved reputation as one of football's best talent developers, his offenses have regularly ranked among the NFL's elite and, though some choose not to acknowledge it, he has developed some of the best game plans in the league. For proof of the latter, look no further than last season's masterpiece against the eventual-champion New England Patriots. Still, McCarthy has his warts, and the unwillingness to buck conventional wisdom in these situations has now contributed to Green Bay's last two playoff losses.

Paul


This game was dumb and infuriating. On the one hand they weren't really "in it" if not for that Hail Mary, so you have to take all of the complaints you may have with a grain of salt. On the other hand the Packers actually outgained the Cardinals in regulation, and won the turnover battle. The peripheral stats all suggest that Green Bay should have won this game. So why didn't they?

Mainly because they had two 70+ yard drives end in field goals, and you just can't do that. You especially can't do that against a team with the Cardinals' offense. The other thing that happened it Tim Masthay, the erstwhile punter was actually having a nice little run. Then we get to this game. His first punt was a 37-yarder from the GB 17. I heard some speculation he was kicking short to avoid a return by Patrick Peterson, but Patrick Peterson, good as he is, is not Devin Hester, and Patrick Peterson also returned that 37-yarder 12 yards, leading to the Cardinals' first touchdown of the game. His second punt went 35 yards, and even though the defense held the Cards to a 3-and-out, Masthay's counterpart Drew Butler boomed a 55-yarder that pinned the Packers at the 5. If they're starting that drive with decent field position maybe they get a touchdown instead of a field goal. Masthay's next punt was a 34-yarder out of bounds, an the Cards had no trouble moving down to the GB 10 yard line, where Damarious Randall bailed everyone out.

I also feel like Jared Abbrederis is getting a bit too much praise. He only caught 4 of 12 targets and while he made a few nice catches, he still dropped a few easy ones, though Aaron also missed him on at least one deep route. Jeff Janis though. I mean, I know at one point they had to call timeout because he didn't know what he was doing, and I know I sound like a JSCommenter, but that guy should have played more! He was aggressive in getting to the ball, and routinely got open. He's clearly better than Davante Adams. I'd love to see the alternate universe where Janis got all 94 of Adams' targets.

People will talk about the coin flip and overtime and the Hail Mary, but the Packers lost this game a dozen ways before any of that happened. It was a frisky effort in a game where they were expected to get destroyed, but given that defensive effort and Jeff Janis playing out of his mind, it's really a shame they didn't win this. You don't get those kinds of performances every day.

Finally, you should absolutely go for 2 in that scenario, even more so if your offense is struggling.

Brendan


There's a larger discussion to have about Saturday night's game and what it says about the Packers big picture potential moving forward, but that's a topic for a different time. For now, I'd like to talk about just this game, which, was one of the most bizarre, astounding, confusing, intense, heartbreaking and pants-crappingly incredible four quarters of football that I've seen in a long time. Obviously the end result wasn't what any of us wanted and there was plenty not to like - Mike McCarthy's decision to not go for two, to start - but there was also plenty to be proud of, not least of which was the fact that the Packers came this close to winning despite having no real business even being in that game to begin with.

Granted, the defense had a lot to do with that and they should be credited accordingly - they played remarkably. But once Randall Cobb went out - on a catch that would have made Odell Beckham Jr. blush, no less - the offense was all but done and could never quite muster the firepower to outpace the Cardinals.

Of course, that didn't stop Aaron Rodgers from trying. In a game that had more than its fair share of lasting images - Janis' incredible leaping catch at the end, Randall Cobb coughing up his lung on the sideline, and the ref pulling some straight up David Blaine magic on the overtime coin flip - the most enduring one of all to me will be Aaron Rodgers dragging an offense comprised of a pair of second-year wide receivers, a slow possession guy known more in the second half of the season for his undershirt than his actual play on the field, and an offensive line made up of donated organs, to the very brink of victory.

I've watched enough sports now in my life to have witnessed greatness in a lot of forms and only a handful measure up to what Aaron Rodgers did Saturday night. This was more than just that final play that saw him teleport about the pocket and uncork yet another prayer through the troposphere. This was a defiance. A transcendent player staring what seemed like insurmountable odds in the face and saying, "bring it." This was [BCOLOR=#ffffff]Ser Barristan in the streets[/BCOLOR], hopelessly outnumbered and mortally wounded, and yet cutting down his foes until the bloody, bitter end. This was, in essence, everything we want from our athletes - their souls exposed and bodies sacrificed in the name of winning - and although that didn't quite happen, it was at least comforting to know that this team - and in particular, Aaron Rodgers - went down with their swords wildly swinging. I suppose it makes sense then that one of the league's most famously stubborn players would go out on the only terms he'd allow.

His own.

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[Cheesedog]

Randall blew Fitzgerald coverage, not Peppers

interesting read.. Capers says it was Randall who blew it not Peppers..

“I think (Randall) knew the call,” Capers said. “But you have to evaluate how shallow the crossing route goes on that. If it goes under your underneath defenders than you have the ability to come off of that. If it goes over the top of him then you have to carry it.
“He just needed to carry (the coverage) further across the field.”
Capers said there was more than one guilty party. The Packers’ inability to sack Palmer was as responsible for the back-breaking play as the blown coverage, he said. Inside linebacker Clay Matthews blew past his blocker, but he ended up running past Palmer as well. Outside linebacker Mike Neal bumped into Palmer, but he couldn’t wrap up.

 

[Pugger]

He seemed to hold on to the ball more this year. He didn't look as decisive as previous years. Most troubling was when he did find open guy (they weren't open often)he sometimes misfired. He only had 31(?) TDs and a whopping 7 ints.
RUN HIM OUT OF TOWN! Tolzien, Tolzien!

Really? He was second most sacked QB in the league. Played behind a swiss cheese OL with five different starting LTs (Bak, Barclay, Tretter, Sitton and I think Walker even got there one game) Playing with a new play caller and restructured staff. Take away top WR and just for kicks- have your 'star' RB show up looking like a OG. Stumble to a 10-6 record, make the playoffs. Win a playoff game. Then play the #1 offensive and #5 Defensive team at their house. Lose more WRs to injury, lead a frantic comeback to tie the game with your last three WRs on the roster and a TE who couldn't beat your grandma to the mailbox. Lose in OT without getting the ball. Yea, let's bitch about Arod a little more. He's a bum right?

Methinks some fans are spoiled and bored. Just my opinion. I'm still pissed we lost, but when I look back at it all I see is Playmaker(?) Sam Shields dropping those interceptions.

I think Sam was rusty but his presence makes our defense so much better! The difference in this game was that ridiculously lucky TD they got off a tipped pass by Randall off Fitzgerald. Talk about luck!

People bitching about Rodgers have no idea what is like to have QBs like Scott Hunter, Jerry Tagge, John Hadl, David Whitehurst and Randy Wright under center for all those years. sick(